You are the one who is salty, I merely pointed out that your original statement was wrong, Mongolians didn't conquer the world.
I do realise that..... I meant that the success of Mongols wasn't due to revolutionary tactics, they were still using the same nomadic tactics like their ancestors. The difference was that the generals were very capable and that was the main reason Mongols were able to defeat many empires at that time. Japan actually fought Mongols and repelled them on land, so Mongol failure to conquest Japan wasn't only because of tsunamis. The reason for Mongol retreat from Europe is a myth. The death of Khan is only a theory, it could be the climate, terrain, sieges etc... The jungles of Vietnam proved to be too much for Mongolian calvary, they had a lot of trouble dealing with the terrain of Southern Song as well. Which sentence from my last post made you think that I was discrediting the mongols? These are all facts.
" I do realise that..... I meant that the success of Mongols wasn't due to revolutionary tactics "
Actually, revolutionary tactics were used in the battle field. The feigned retreat (which is the common nomadic tactic you maybe talking about) is common yes... but Mongols brought the revolutionary "Shock and Awe" before it was ever conceived by any nation civilisation. Mongols were also the first to produce a form of a "Blitzkrieg" using very fast cavalry to raid and attack positions before the enemy even knew what hit them.
" The difference was that the generals were very capable and that was the main reason Mongols were able to defeat many empires at that time. "
Not exactly, this was partially the reason yes. Mongols had smaller military forces than their opponents. It was the use of terror, reconnaissance, espionage and deceptively fast raids and attacks that brought large bulky empires to their knees. We saw that with the Khwarazeim Empire, who were militarily superior, technologically superior and had mountainous terrain that would be very problematic to Mongol forces... but they were still defeated.
" Japan actually fought Mongols and repelled them on land, so Mongol failure to conquest Japan wasn't only because of tsunamis."
It is true that the Japanese did fight on land against the remnants of the Mongol fleets. Note that word "Remnants". Just as the Greeks in the battle of Thermopylae did not actually fight a million Persians, the Japanese did not fight the full force of the Mongol fleets, who were mostly destroyed by the tsunamis and then were attacked during the nights when attempting to recover and reorganise.
"The reason for Mongol retreat from Europe is a myth. The death of Khan is only a theory, it could be the climate, terrain, sieges etc... "
In your opinion perhaps, but not most historians. This event happened several times, stopping the conquests in many wars... it even happened at the oh so famous battle of Ain Jalut, when Mongol Forces were decimating the forces of the Mamluke slave kingdom... a Khagan died... Hulaqu Khan withdrew to elect a new Khagan and the commander Kitbuqa was left in charge to deal with the Mamlukes, ultimately failing to secure the victory.
" The jungles of Vietnam proved to be too much for Mongolian calvary, they had a lot of trouble dealing with the terrain of Southern Song as well "
Yeah, the jungles of Vietnam proved too much for everyone who invaded Vietnam... from Han China to the Mongol Empire, to France and the USA... no one has ever succeeded in fully subjugating Vietnam, just like Afghanistan. Some lands are just not meant to be conquered.
"Which sentence from my last post made you think that I was discrediting the mongols? These are all facts."
" They failed miserably in many places in Southeastern asia, Japan, Western Europe, India, and Northern Africa. "
^ This made me think you were insulting my people's history when this statement is incorrect. There were great failures for sure... but this was not in many places... and it certainly does not outshine the fact, that a people who were little more than sparsely populated nomads, managed to unify the steppe tribes into a great nation empire and then fight against vastly superior foes, like China, Persia, The Abbassid Caliphate, the Crusader States, as well as all the other great confederations, like the Khazars, Cumans, Tartars, along with the "Slavic/Viking" kingdoms like the Kieven Rus.
