Sg15fan
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My question still stands. At what point is it false advertising? At some point they gotta be crossing some kind of legal threshold.
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Beta Patch Notes v1.2.0-v1.2.6
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The only reason it hasn't even gotten to that level 'legality' of outcries is this 'roadmap' stuff. Game is still in beta, just with a 'full-release' tagged on for some reason.
They'll keep stringing the game along with these roadmaps/features to be completed probably for the next year or so without ever 'finishing' the game. Because they know if they do themselves 'finish' it (at its current state), they will have to deal with that added backlash - for now it's being swept under the rug with hushed soon updates.
Macaulyn
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I don't want you to nip the rumors in the bud, I want you to nip the bugs in the bud, I want you to nip the launch delay in the bud, I want you to nip the lack of transparency in the bud.
Sg15fan
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Turret0487
Why are you doing this to us?
You are not going to fix in a single patch all that is wrong, broken and missing in the game that you couldn't fix in a a decade of development, two years of EA and a year of "official release". It wouldn't be the first time you released a poor patch anyway.
1.2 has been in beta for three months just tell us what exactly isn't yet fixed and why it's so critical.
You need to understand that 1.1 is literally a mess and it's an insult to us players that this version is still the "stable" version from your "officially released" game.
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Hechicera
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Having been playing the test branch exclusively, I support a hotfix. Still some balance things and a couple of bugs. The sort of ones where I throw my hands up and go, this run must be abandoned. Not that they are unplayable crash bugs mind you, but some interrupt character plans enough is is better to retry and hope you don't get the issue or to develop a character of a different type for more fun.
The best way to raise medicine for the player, on test, is to get badly injured yourself (hideouts and trying to take over alleys is key) and then rest yourself back to health. Do the opposite of the perk on the rest for max healing "ticks". So if you chose to heal when moving on map perk, rest in a settlement. If you chose the perk for more healing when resting, heal while moving. This is awkward. It is harder to level organically through battle, and even worse to level on a companion medic than on live. It was never easy to level now is a mess. My test character was a Battanian that started with highest healing and INT that was possible and rapidly invested in it. Levelling it on a fighter focused build where you are low int and low perk just to get the starting perks for your build will be excruciating.
Alley takeovers are bugged again. I'm not sure of the trigger, and there is an open ticket in progress. I have a proper candidate companion (high roguery, one "bad" trait, autogenerated "the Robber" empire). But, when I win an alley fight the option to take it over is always unselectable. I have tried being a merc, being totally freelance, when merc in my factions, not in my faction. And yes, I have run alleys before, so I know the drill. If I find the trigger I'll post in the existing (not mine) bug thread.
Running a workshop is still obscure enough it doesn't feel either fun to micromanage or useful to "fire and forget". Warehouses are a cool concept, but how the economy "settles" after the game is played a while leads to much overproduction by the AI. So the economy seems to eventually trash itself. That has bigger implications to runs, esp if running unmodded.
The new battle AI also offers new plusses, but still seems off where it won't respond to rear or flanking attacks at all (again documented well, not by me). The balance between hold formation and defend yourself still feels like it needs tweaking. Spears feel better after last mini-patch though.
The best way to raise medicine for the player, on test, is to get badly injured yourself (hideouts and trying to take over alleys is key) and then rest yourself back to health. Do the opposite of the perk on the rest for max healing "ticks". So if you chose to heal when moving on map perk, rest in a settlement. If you chose the perk for more healing when resting, heal while moving. This is awkward. It is harder to level organically through battle, and even worse to level on a companion medic than on live. It was never easy to level now is a mess. My test character was a Battanian that started with highest healing and INT that was possible and rapidly invested in it. Levelling it on a fighter focused build where you are low int and low perk just to get the starting perks for your build will be excruciating.
Alley takeovers are bugged again. I'm not sure of the trigger, and there is an open ticket in progress. I have a proper candidate companion (high roguery, one "bad" trait, autogenerated "the Robber" empire). But, when I win an alley fight the option to take it over is always unselectable. I have tried being a merc, being totally freelance, when merc in my factions, not in my faction. And yes, I have run alleys before, so I know the drill. If I find the trigger I'll post in the existing (not mine) bug thread.
Running a workshop is still obscure enough it doesn't feel either fun to micromanage or useful to "fire and forget". Warehouses are a cool concept, but how the economy "settles" after the game is played a while leads to much overproduction by the AI. So the economy seems to eventually trash itself. That has bigger implications to runs, esp if running unmodded.
The new battle AI also offers new plusses, but still seems off where it won't respond to rear or flanking attacks at all (again documented well, not by me). The balance between hold formation and defend yourself still feels like it needs tweaking. Spears feel better after last mini-patch though.
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Turret0487
Dude this is the history of the game and why mods like diplomacy and others have been so essential.
At the rate they are working on this patch it'll release for Xmas. Just in time for their "official release" version 2.
At the very least they could be more forthcoming about the progress.
Hechicera
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Right, but test is for feedback usually. So I give feedback as a test player. Noting if the feedback is for modded (and what) and unmodded is important.
Status of known bugs is found in that forum area, but you have to search for the issue yourself. Which is normal enough.
However the feedback on setting expectations is valid. I know the "chatter-verse" on gaming is going on about BG3 (and I have been a test player pre-release on the very early titles from that studio too btw). But I feel they are different enough games architecturally that the comparisons here are meaningless.
I would love to see something out of Taleworlds like Coffee Stain Studios (Satisfactory) does.
Status of known bugs is found in that forum area, but you have to search for the issue yourself. Which is normal enough.
However the feedback on setting expectations is valid. I know the "chatter-verse" on gaming is going on about BG3 (and I have been a test player pre-release on the very early titles from that studio too btw). But I feel they are different enough games architecturally that the comparisons here are meaningless.
I would love to see something out of Taleworlds like Coffee Stain Studios (Satisfactory) does.
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Prices will rise and even fewer people will play, there is a lack of official servers in South America, etc. There is no activity of events or tournaments and too much time since its launch, if they do not develop a mount & blade 3 or DLC I see it difficult that it will be profitable to continue fixing bannerlord's bugs
Sg15fan
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dejan was getting roasted on the post about raising prices so they do the most taleworlds thing possible....delete all the comments and remove the option to comment at all on the post. I got a feeling you're right, were never gonna see this update. Hell, I'm starting to think dejan is the only employee left at taleworlds, going for one more moneygrab before he closes the doors permanently.
iam just wildly guessing that you are nothing but annoying toddlers and people that are in charge have other stuff on their mind than dealing with subjects like yours. you behave like morons.
Sg15fan
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I think they just like the little boot licking shills like yourself better than the people pointing out that they need to finish the game before asking for more money. Fanboys gotta fanboy, I guess.
nah dont be intentionally misunderstanding, read my whole comment. i wasnt speaking of small bugs and such, but really, how much are such small fixes going to help you enjoy the game much more? When I play I barely come across any bugs, maybe some minor I don't care about after hours of gameplay. Worst case probably some formation/ai not working as it should. Complaining loud about minuscule details, but does it really help? Yes, I do think many make such a big fuss over such small things because they play the game too much, nobody else cares really.
Yes for $50 today, it does offer good enough content and generally even more and better polished than most alternatives. You exaggerate about the flaws
you simply dont get it. you go after dejan like he would be the boss and then act like it's a trophy that people simply turn it dowm because they dont have any of that bullsh*t. go on dreaming and imagine like you would be the big hitter because you are trying to set some fire on a fkn forum.
if you would be serious you would go other ways, but you decided to troll in a forum like a 12yo child and front on people which are simply not having any of your infant ****show. it has nothing to do with your -rather dumb- criticism. dealing with onionheads is just not worth any time or effort.
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Turret0487
small fixes? what game are you playing?
Sg15fan
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What other ways? The only responses anybody gets(rarely), are vague, cryptic responses that tell the same story....nothing. Theyve built a brand on stringing gamers along and people like you have given them a pass, on both incomplete launches and lack of clear communication. I'm not alone in having no patience left for this company.
OUCH lol
