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Kehlian said:
What is the most frustrating is reading Frank saying "a little while", "a little too early", "soon", "just needs some more polishing" when it's obviously far from finished. I was expecting something by the end of last year, and now, by the beggining of this year, but it's more and more obvious that they still have a lot of work to do, and it's not "soon" at all.
I'd really appreciate if you provided some actual quotes instead of this. We've tried very hard not to make any promises about development or release, despite endless, often angry requests and even demands for us to do so, and despite game development being incredibly unpredictable and complex.

At no point have I stated the game "just needs some more polishing".

I understand your frustration but please check your facts because I don't think your post is fair.
 
Maybe he meant the video presentations where you said "this is the game in its current state", "there's still polishing to be done and edges to be rounded". These words could be interpreted as "game is almost finished and there's only to adjust the details". :smile:
 
Captain Lust said:
Kehlian said:
What is the most frustrating is reading Frank saying "a little while", "a little too early", "soon", "just needs some more polishing" when it's obviously far from finished. I was expecting something by the end of last year, and now, by the beggining of this year, but it's more and more obvious that they still have a lot of work to do, and it's not "soon" at all.
I'd really appreciate if you provided some actual quotes instead of this. We've tried very hard not to make any promises about development or release, despite endless, often angry requests and even demands for us to do so, and despite game development being incredibly unpredictable and complex.

At no point have I stated the game "just needs some more polishing".

I understand your frustration but please check your facts because I don't think your post is fair.


Frank I think its time for the PR department to grow balls and say to TW that we need to release some info. The information gap is beyond retarded now, people fight all over the forum for BL info and this is turning into a meme/rage discussion. Its been 6 **** months bro. I mean why do you decline even 1 screenshot to the public? You are a company, its understandable but this is getting annoying for all of us people who follow this thread for many months for some, years for others. To my eyes this is a big ''**** you'' by your part, sorry but its the truth.
 
Captain Lust said:
I'd really appreciate if you provided some actual quotes instead of this. We've tried very hard not to make any promises about development or release, despite endless, often angry requests and even demands for us to do so, and despite game development being incredibly unpredictable and complex.

At no point have I stated the game "just needs some more polishing".

I understand your frustration but please check your facts because I don't think your post is fair.

True and fair enough. Although, TW answers are vaguer than vague. Not even a "soon". More like a "...soon -ish?". I don't think anyone expects the exact date and time, but "you'll get to see something, probably, some time before E3" doesn't say, well, anything at all. Feed the hungry masses.  :razz:
 
Well if all goes as it has been, the TW team should fire up the steamapp, whatever version it is (it actually just got updated a couple hours ago) and we should see about 30 or so people play it for a couple days, and then go poof.  So development is happening since a schedule is being followed for testing.  Obviously where that's at, only they know.
 
K.A. said:
Maybe he meant the video presentations where you said "this is the game in its current state", "there's still polishing to be done and edges to be rounded". These words could be interpreted as "game is almost finished and there's only to adjust the details". :smile:
That video is a showcase of siege though and I think it's pretty clear I'm only talking about siege. If that's even where the misinterpretation has arisen from, though, which I suspect it isn't. There is a lot of false information out there and I feel that it can be the case that people believe it or assume the opinion or attitude of someone else, is based on something we've actually said, when it often isn't.

Anyway, I just wanted to challenge that quote since it was aimed at me, I feel, a bit unfairly.

578 said:
Frank I think its time for the PR department to grow balls and say to TW that we need to release some info. The information gap is beyond retarded now, people fight all over the forum for BL info and this is turning into a meme/rage discussion. Its been 6 **** months bro. I mean why do you decline even 1 screenshot to the public? You are a company, its understandable but this is getting annoying for all of us people who follow this thread for many months for some, years for others. To my eyes this is a big ''**** you'' by your part, sorry but its the truth.
Two things here:

The first is that we tend to avoid posting single screenshots like that, in a sort of breadcrumb trail, because our view (which I personally support) is that releasing information in that way is more likely to promote confusion, and ultimately worsen our communication, than it is to improve it.

The other is that there is information on its way *relatively* soon.
 
Captain Lust said:
... *relatively* soon.
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"The other is that there is information on its way *relatively* soon."

This is exactly what we're talking about.  When someone in your position says relatively soon, we expect something soon, not in the forever.  We were supposed to get a blog post "soon" months ago.  Still hasn't happened.  I understand that most of this thread is cancerous, but you can pretty easily see where we're coming from.

It's this kind of miscommunication with people that has inspired all this distrust in the first place.
 
Relax. Creating a game, especially from scratch - a new engine - is a challenging, artistic and often unpredictable process.
They've released plenty of information so far. I think it's clear to all they're taking their time, which is better than the alternative.
 
Captain Lust said:
The other is that there is information on its way *relatively* soon.

If there is one thing you guys can learn from all the misconfusion here is that WE NEED INFOS VERY SOON!!!!

People are rebelling because they are hungry!

Either beat them down or give them something to chew on.
 
K.A. said:
It's time Armagan makes some posts here and takes some waves of hate instead of the poor Lust. :grin:

That, but since he made a promise he didn't fulfill either, I don't think it would do any better.
Captain Lust said:
The other is that there is information on its way *relatively* soon.

I recall reading something like this some time ago. :wink:
 
Frank, you can maybe say that of the Info "relatively soon" on the Steam forum??  That forgotted place it is a hell right now. 
9/10 topics are trolls or fake info, because of the total lack of info.

I strongly suggest TW to CLOSE that Forum until you have something strong to show,  because right now is bad publicity for BL.
Any "new guy" who enters en that forum to know something about the game, got washed into lots of "Game is fake"  "It will never come out"  "2025 more and less"  .... And you know, that can persuade a new guy from keep an eye on the game. 

That forum have no longer any usage.  Game mechanics or things OF the game was not discussed anymore there.  Just troll after troll.


Sorry my english! I hope it is legible.
 
Rollo.TheWarrior said:
Frank, you can maybe say that of the Info "relatively soon" on the Steam forum??  That forgotted place it is a hell right now. 
9/10 topics are trolls or fake info, because of the total lack of info.

I strongly suggest TW to CLOSE that Forum until you have something strong to show,  because right now is bad publicity for BL.
Any "new guy" who enters en that forum to know something about the game, got washed into lots of "Game is fake"  "It will never come out"  "2025 more and less"  .... And you know, that can persuade a new guy from keep an eye on the game. 

That forum have no longer any usage.  Game mechanics or things OF the game was not discussed anymore there.  Just troll after troll.


Sorry my english! I hope it is legible.

:lol:

You've heard him, gentlemen. We're shutting down. Byebye all.
 
YourStepDad said:
Rollo.TheWarrior said:
Frank, you can maybe say that of the Info "relatively soon" on the Steam forum??  That forgotted place it is a hell right now. 
9/10 topics are trolls or fake info, because of the total lack of info.

I strongly suggest TW to CLOSE that Forum until you have something strong to show,  because right now is bad publicity for BL.
Any "new guy" who enters en that forum to know something about the game, got washed into lots of "Game is fake"  "It will never come out"  "2025 more and less"  .... And you know, that can persuade a new guy from keep an eye on the game. 

That forum have no longer any usage.  Game mechanics or things OF the game was not discussed anymore there.  Just troll after troll.


Sorry my english! I hope it is legible.

:lol:

You've heard him, gentlemen. We're shutting down. Byebye all.

Im talking about the Steam forum only.  This forum is stil pretty clean.

Or at least a New CLOSED topic from Frank saying... Hey dudes, u will have new relatively soon!  I think that will be enought to show them TW is stil alive and "fighting". 
 
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