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Having a maximum amount of damage a weapon can block would bring some issues, like the player not being able to determine if they can block the incoming attack or not, thus turning it into a gamble, which is undesirable.
However, not being able to block with a dagger as much or as well as with other, let`s say more conventional weapons, makes sense, we`ll bring this up.
Ulfhedinn_
Sergeant at Arms
@Dejan or @Piconi , can we have a final say on the minor factions?
We don't expect any changes anytime soon, but could you at least tell us if there is any intention to improve this feature in the game?
Minor factions should represent alternative gameplay options, each type with its own unique characteristics and objectives...
For example, I would love to join the Wolfskins and lead an insurgent force in Battania!
If you could tell me that, at least that, I could stop holding onto that hope and give up on the vanilla game completely. Thanks.
We don't expect any changes anytime soon, but could you at least tell us if there is any intention to improve this feature in the game?
Minor factions should represent alternative gameplay options, each type with its own unique characteristics and objectives...
For example, I would love to join the Wolfskins and lead an insurgent force in Battania!
If you could tell me that, at least that, I could stop holding onto that hope and give up on the vanilla game completely. Thanks.
I don't think it's a problem if it follows common sense and is somehow generous. It could actually give an interesting gameplay balance to different weapons, like bladed weapons being more affected by armor, but being able to block more than non-bladed weapons, and smaller weapons being faster but being weaker on block.
The amount of damage blocked could be a base statistic of the weapon (calculated from weight, size and balance, just like the other values are calculated during blacksmithing), and would be increased by the skill in the weapon category, control and strength (with the final total being shown on the character sheet). I don't see how it's more of a gamble than the crush-through, which is already implemented while being weirder, much more obscure and less universal.
At least this mechanism would work for everything and would be easily exposed to the player, while being easily understandable.
Macewindu16
Recruit
When it's ready in November? Sounds promising
I do not really appreciate the tone of 'When it's ready.', but i will give you the benefit of the doubt as it is hard to convey feelings through text.
However, if that tone is on purpose, I suppose you might be quite frustrated at the lack of progress and the state the game is in, it is understandable. I assure you we all feel the same...
Gadheras
Squire
November is November, and ready when ready is... when it's ready. Should be simple enough that.
Blacke
Recruit
Oh sorry we have been annoying you with that, my lord.
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Consul_Kaiser
Veteran
I will never understand why TW cannot commit to actual deadlines. How are things ever managed over there? Do they not have any senior leadership telling them that specific progress goals must be met or is this how things are done in Turkey? I can say that if I ever told my boss my project or current job will be completed by "when its ready" I would be told to provide a date and be held accountable by it. But I guess when you are a gaming dev standards must be much lower
No, I pointing out that C# is complex language that average gamers would have difficulty learning, case in point, take 5 gamers, give them C# then ask them to create a mod by the end of day , how many would succeed ? Answer ZERO ! Show that same group SQL and how it works on a DB and how many would have added a new weapon / item or even a new faction ? Probably about 3 - 5 !
I'm sorry Mr. Wonderful, no, most gamers would not find OOP, C++ or C# simple. (unless they have a degree from a University)
Not to add that C# doesn't have to bother with memory management, pointers and other complex safety concerns that C had.
Yeah, because novice gamers won't have trouble with setting up a SQL server and dealing with SQL queries. That's just common novice gamer knowledge.
That's Piss weak argument right there, setting Up SQL server probably would have already been done by an admin etc "Dealing with SQL queries" ????? common text files ? really.
I've already given examples were CIV uses SQL to simply mod the game. No programming degree needed.
For people like you ,who know C#, sure, but unfortunately not many gamers have these skills. For every Mr. Wonderful there are 50 gamers without programming skills.
Good for you, Mr Wonderful. Lets see a novice gamer do that ?
Gadheras
Squire
Curious, what do you work with/as? Fixing code and hunting down bugs isn't as easy to just decide it's done Friday next week...
If they release it with glaring bugs and issues, you would be the first in line to throw shade at them for release when it's not ready right?
Do we know what changes we can expect going from 1.2.4 (Beta) to 1.2.5 (Beta)?
Is it just bug fixing or some bigger changes coming as well?
Is it just bug fixing or some bigger changes coming as well?
We don't have any plans on this at the moment, unfortunately, due to the moddability of custom servers and Multiplayer in general. Changing various parameters could allow for easy loot to be gained.
Not at all, just don't have much else to share at this point.
Other changes as well, we've shared some in the Community Tales #3.
So, first off, saying "case in point" then not providing a case but a made up situation... yeah okay.
"Create a mod" is such a broad definition but lets run with what you said after - adding a weapon or faction. You do not need to know C# to do either. It's all XML, which, as a markup language, is simpler than SQL, even if you personally disagree for whatever laughable reason.
OOP and the basics of C# are fairly simple. It's more to learn than writing a SQL query, sure, but it's also far more powerful. As the guy above already pointed out, not having to deal with manual memory management, pointers etc. does make C# easier to get into than C, even if you personally disagree for whatever laughable reason.
"An admin" helping you to mod?
For the sake of completeness though - I agree that "you have to set up a SQL server" is a bad argument as the game will most likely ship its own.
Now as for "common text files"... So you write your queries in a text file, fine. How does the game (lets say CIV) go to read them? I'm assuming you have to tell it somewhere... in a config file perhaps? Sounds like that oh-so-dangerous XML creeping up again... Or maybe place it in a special folder? That's pretty unintuitive, too, no? Man SQL modding is so hard!
Yeah, CIV is not Bannerlord and if you think Bannerlord could run purely on SQL then that's the end of this conversation for me because that's just ridiculous. The game is not just an overworld map, hint hint.
There are also plenty of people that have figured out how to use C# or other programming languages without a uni degree. Stop making this sound harder than it is. It's not 1990 anymore.
Ok? So what? Not everyone wants to make their own mods anyway? Most people will have to learn something to get into modding the game. Be that just how the game works internally or a "full" programming language.
At that point, you might as well learn a good, powerful tool rather than something that stops at letting you add weapons and factions.
I've met a lot of ridiculous people on this forum, but you might genuinely be #1.
The point being a newbie could get alot of work done in game design and adding new data rather than wasting time learning to code !
A lie, but ok, we have Mr Wonderful 2.
Stating the obvious but ignoring the issue.
I never said Bannerlord should be coded in "C", i just said it's a procedural language and easier than C++ / C#
Stupid joke accepted."An admin" helping you to mod?
For the sake of completeness though - I agree that "you have to set up a SQL server" is a bad argument as the game will most likely ship its own.
Now as for "common text files"... So you write your queries in a text file, fine. How does the game (lets say CIV) go to read them? I'm assuming you have to tell it somewhere... in a config file perhaps? Sounds like that oh-so-dangerous XML creeping up again... Or maybe place it in a special folder? That's pretty unintuitive, too, no? Man SQL modding is so hard!
it all depends how you DESIGN your code. You obviously don't understand.
Wow! This is so simple, so obvious.
Once again, it all depends how you design the code, something you don't understand.
You're obviously a righteous programmer who thinks he knows better but obviously you don't.
Minor Factions, as they are right now, are solo independent clans, much like the player`s clan. They are not on the same plane as Major Factions, which have multiple clans as part of their structure.
Having that in mind, and the fact that joining, exiting or switching clans isn`t a current feature, do you have any suggestions on how you would like to interact with them, within the existing framework?
Sigh. There's no way this isn't bait at this point...
XML is a markup language. It is easier than SQL. If you are having trouble understanding XML, you will not have more success with SQL.
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To recap this all: You effectively claim that SQL would allow for easier modding of games, including Bannerlord. Because it works for CIV. You completly ignore that you cannot add new functionality to the game that way, and instead focus on "oh yeah but people can add new data (items, factions, ...) so much more easily!". That is not a problem we have here. People can already do that, using XML. Which, as a markup language, is really easy to learn.
Claiming C# to be too complex to be understood without a degree (and C to be easier than C#) is also beyond laughable. Again, I already gave reasons above, and for examples of people learning C# with little or no prior experience coding, you can just look around the modding scene yourself.
You claimed to have worked with C in the 90s and it seems like you've been stuck there ever since.
Don't think I'll be feeding this troll any further.
Cool, you can add data. You can't add functionality though. And hey, nothing against adding data - we can already do that with XML and lots of people make cool mods that way.
XML is a markup language. It is easier than SQL. If you are having trouble understanding XML, you will not have more success with SQL.
ok boomer
What issue? Not being able to add data easily without C#? No such issue exists. XML is used for that. It works, especially for people new to modding and with no prior experience.
I never said anything about C and Bannerlord, either. And again, C is not easier than C#. I already outlined some of the reasons for that.
Cool, don't respond then.
This is just such a nothingburger of a response, again.
Yeah? It literally tells you where things went wrong. Go grab your debugger, place a breakpoint where it tells you and see what happens? You claim to have worked on code 30 years ago, how is this complex to you?
Sure.
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To recap this all: You effectively claim that SQL would allow for easier modding of games, including Bannerlord. Because it works for CIV. You completly ignore that you cannot add new functionality to the game that way, and instead focus on "oh yeah but people can add new data (items, factions, ...) so much more easily!". That is not a problem we have here. People can already do that, using XML. Which, as a markup language, is really easy to learn.
Claiming C# to be too complex to be understood without a degree (and C to be easier than C#) is also beyond laughable. Again, I already gave reasons above, and for examples of people learning C# with little or no prior experience coding, you can just look around the modding scene yourself.
You claimed to have worked with C in the 90s and it seems like you've been stuck there ever since.
Don't think I'll be feeding this troll any further.
Gadheras
Squire
When you take a factions last fief, they implode and their clans go independent, and short after they vanish unless they join some other faction. During this time we are not able to recruit any of these ourselves. Would be nice if you make them recruitable for the player during this time window.
Make it possible to recruit rebel clans would been nice as well.
Make it possible to recruit rebel clans would been nice as well.
