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Seems like Erdogan has his own economic ideas contrary to 'classic' economic policies that the sacked central bank chiefs tried to follow.
Instead of raising interest rates Erdogan is relying on the economy to stabilize over time. With the lira being low exports will pick up, e.g.
But that doesn't help all the people right now seeing their savings slowly wither away.

It's an odd, unpopular policy. Erdogan is blaming all sorts of people being enemies of Turkey.
It can make you wonder whether Erdogan is of sane mind.
Whenever he gives a speech you can almost see the value of the lira drop in real time with each word he says.
Dropping interest rates in the current economic environment reminds me of King Canute. Hopefully, TW will be insulated to a certain extend as their income is earned in foreign currencies. I wonder if Devs from europe have contracts in Euros or Liras.
 
Dropping interest rates in the current economic environment reminds me of King Canute. Hopefully, TW will be insulated to a certain extend as their income is earned in foreign currencies. I wonder if Devs from europe have contracts in Euros or Liras.
TW insulated and devs screwed. This is the opposite of what we want! Thanks Erdogan.
 
Seems like Erdogan has his own economic ideas contrary to 'classic' economic policies that the sacked central bank chiefs tried to follow.
Instead of raising interest rates Erdogan is relying on the economy to stabilize over time. With the lira being low exports will pick up, e.g.
But that doesn't help all the people right now seeing their savings slowly wither away.

It's an odd, unpopular policy. Erdogan is blaming all sorts of people being enemies of Turkey.
It can make you wonder whether Erdogan is of sane mind.
Whenever he gives a speech you can almost see the value of the lira drop in real time with each word he says.

Whenever he speaks, US gifts another batch of military equipment to Greece and Lira is devalued more. The only two possibilities are that Turkish government is either insane or they are hiding something from us. Both possibilities suck.
 
they are hiding something from us
Did your parents hide from you a lot when you were a kid? Because you seem obsessed with stuff deliberately hidden from you, but I can understand your parents too ("not another random word association, let's hide instead").

Erdogan is trying to shore up his falling domestic support with short term measures that cause long term harm, then blaming the harm he caused on external enemies. It's typical authoritarian behavior when you rely on support from simple people. And it's all in plain view.
He seems desperate though and his days in power are numbered, but he did plenty of damage already in turning Turkey into an authoritarian police state.
 
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Erdogan is trying to shore up his falling domestic support with short term measures that cause long term harm, then blaming the harm he caused on external enemies. It's typical authoritarian behavior when you rely on support from simple people. And it's all in plain view.
He seems desperate though and his days in power are numbered, but he did plenty of damage already in turning Turkey into an authoritarian police state.

That is not logical thinking on your side. Reducing interest rates only work in your favor to increase your votes when the central bank operating in your country has reserves to compensate. Any person who has at least high school diploma and a little bit of knowledge about economics should know this. If you had the support of some power that made you the ruler of a country like Turkey, you probably should be aware of this.

Thus Turkish government is either insane or they are hiding something from us.

And the ""external" enemies" you mentioned: wait will edit

Years ago Merrill Lynch announces that Turkey does not need IMF. People in Turkey start to take credit from banks trusting the economic experts.
After a short time, they say Turkey needs IMF.
After that suddenly Merrill Lynch starts an operation that disrupts Turkish economy. Soon Credit Suisse and Citi joins this operation as well.

Let's see the connections:
Barbara Rockefeller - the president of Rockefeller treasury services inc. - previously Senior Risk Manager at Citibank, foreign exchange department at American bank. Vice president of Credit Suisse.

Together they started selling Tüpraş and Erdemir stocks which resulted in a huge devaluation in Turkish currency.

So. Countries like Turkey without necessary infrastructure and "God-Given" natural resources that lost 80 percent of its territory a century ago, only has one thing to offer foreign investors.
We call that extraordinary product "interest". Countries that produce interest are especially lucrative for these ""external" enemies". If you don't give them interest, they historically create a coup out of nowhere. If you find another way to earn money (like oil), see Venezuela example to understand what happens next. Turkey is not easy to swallow as a whole.

These ""external" enemies" do not work for any country. Countries work them. The wars that are fought in the world are not wars between nations. They are wars between ""external" enemies" and people. They use people and countries.

So if an interest producing country has a way to become a country that does not rely on foreign investment, these ""external" enemies intuitively will try to stop that country from doing so. So for example since Turkey has found energy supply that can last hundreds of years in Eastern Mediterranean, they will do everything to stop Turkey from exploiting this. They will use their pawn Greece against Turkey again. Since Turkey is starting to become strong in future military technologies, this is disrupting their plans and they are forcing the countries they control to issue open and hidden embargos on Turkey.
 
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Credit ratings are objective assessments of economic strength, not loyalty or disloyalty. Investors will always shift from stocks/bonds that undermine their wealth to those that will increase it (subject to risk assessments).
No, international finance is based on whether people like each other, just like kindergarten. Also, the Jews did this and Erdogan did nothing wrong.
 
Credit ratings are objective assessments of economic strength
Remember when Standard & Poor's contributed to the financial crisis in 2008? That was fun.
It's a severely corrupt/criminal industry. The objectivity is just a mirage. A joke.

(Notice the tiny settlement and no one (persons) actually held accountable).

 
Remember when Standard & Poor's contributed to the financial crisis in 2008? That was fun.
It's a severely corrupt/criminal industry. The objectivity is just a mirage. A joke.
But this is bad for business and their ratings lose meaning, so I expect some kind of a self-correcting loop.
If your business is heavily dependent on your reputation, tarnishing that reputation can end you, like it happened for Arthur Andersen auditors after the Enron scandal.
Why would credit rating agencies walk away relatively unharmed from scandals?
 
Remember when Standard & Poor's contributed to the financial crisis in 2008? That was fun.
It's a severely corrupt/criminal industry. The objectivity is just a mirage. A joke.

(Notice the tiny settlement and no one (persons) actually held accountable).

Assessing sovereign credit risks is unrelated to assessing junk mortgage bonds with conflicting interests.
 
Life becomes interesting when you don't really own anything, and everything you use is a service.
I wonder where did the car companies pick up their evil tricks, from MMOs or SaaS subscriptions? Who came up with this crap first?
 
Well, Bavarians' entire bussiness model was "We sell you your entire car all over again during the course of its lifetime," but this blatantly?

Imma go with "Tesla," since it's the first one I spotted doing stuff like this.
 
Kosovo agrees to rent prison cells to Denmark to ease overcrowding
It's only for criminal immigrants that are to be deported, but a Kosovo prison? That's cruel and unusual punishment by itself.
Every time I see news about Denmark, I think "so what's the next racist thing they did?". They rarely disappoint (like in jailing their former immigration minister for separating all couples when the girl was underage, without exceptions).
 
The case about the former immigration minister is much more complicated. She broke the law, quite simply.
A minister cannot by decree order the separation of couples en masse. That requires each case to be individually evaluated.
She chose to overlook that. Ironically, an important part of the case was breaking the European Convention on Human Rights, article 8 (about respect for private and family life). So it's not just about Danish judges and politicians, but international law.

The Kosovo prison deal is strange. But other countries have also rented prison cells abroad.
And in this case it's only for foreigners who are to be deported, so their connection to Denmark is already cut.
The main issue is - again - human rights, the ability to see their families on visits.
In an interview the minister of justice said the state would pay plane tickets for family members to visit inmates, and pointed out it would still be cheaper than housing the prisoners in Denmark :lol:
"so what's the next racist thing they did?"
Ironically about 40% of inmates in Danish prisons are foreigners (44.3% according to latest numbers from 2019).
In "closed prisons" (is there an English term for that?) it's 50%! In Copenhagen (capital) it's 66%.
And those numbers have kept rising for years now. Children of immigrants are even more criminal than their parents.
That's a staggering amount considering they are a minority group, and shows the severity and urgency of handling the problem.

 
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