Hi there,
not sure if I'm posting in the right forum, because this is like a half gameplay half coding(modding) question.
I'm playing on a mod called Warband Advanced 2.2, with game version 1.153 (but I don't think it's a problem with the mod).
About 680 days in, I got a bad case of the relation spiral of doom where everyone hates each other forever (everyone getting indicted for treason, from every faction) which seems to be a common (kinda game breaking) issue,
in the native game (without being fixed for... some reason?)
Not only am I constantly spammed with these indiction messages, it's also pretty hard to get anywhere with lords that switch factions at least once a week. I am fighting in the army of a lord (apparently a mod feature) and sometimes he gets indicted AGAIN while I'm still trying to find him after his previous indictment, which makes him join a random faction.
After some research I learned about the relations penalties that can hit a lord when they don't get the fief they wanted. It took me literal DAYS to find the right values in my mod (AND on this game version...) but I finally managed to tweak the values to calm the lords down.
Now, because I didn't want to start over, I even edited my save file and set the relations of some lords (only like 10 for testing) to a good value.
Through some testing with very high and low values, I confirmed that all my tweaks were initially working as intended
(the way I test is by waiting in a town for days/weeks, to see if lords get indicted again, while checking on their relation values now and then).
However, there seems to be more to it, as the lords still keep losing their new good relations very quickly, even with starting at +100, the fief relation loss penalty set to ZERO and possible relation gains doubled (20 for getting a fief, 0 for not getting it and up to 3 if a well liked lord get's it or something) sometimes they just lose just like 2 points over the .course of a day, but sometimes they jump from +100 to -60 or something...
So basically I would like to know what other factors may be ruining the mood. Why are the lords constantly losing relations? And I understand that there are some problem lords who just don't want to be happy, but when half of the lords have the sub-title "vindicta" ( = maximum of -100 relation) it's just laughable. Why do I even have to do all this, I just wanted to play the game, not sift through garbled numbers and baby sit the NPCs into being functional...
Anyway, here are some possible reasons I have found, which I would like to confirm or rule out:
- Maybe now the issue is that lords are still not getting fiefs? But still, going from +100 to -60 or lower within a few ingame days...?
- Actual relation values can go higher or lower than +-100 (???) from the wiki: https://mountandblade.fandom.com/wiki/Relationship
- Can (very) bad relations with other factions make a lord do poorly in their own faction?
(I set them to be hated by everyone else, so they stay in their faction, will try with every faction +100, everything neutral, etc.)
- A lords controversy making them not get a fief (though I checked some and they had single digit values, if any) will try to test with 0 controvery
Or of course, if you know some possible issues right off the bat, lemme know.
I just want to enjoy the game again...
pls halp