let's please notOdenar said:hurr
Mamlaz said:I would say that the fact that Europe was at the time experiencing the biggest population boom it ever experienced until post WW2, I would say the peasantry was neither starving nor being oppressed nearly to the level you presume.
VictorF said:guys, any projections on how turkey's coup will interfere with bannerlord's development? My sentiments to all turkish people in this terrible moment.
Golradir said:https://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php/topic,353208.msg8486001.html#msg8486001
^topic for the coup
Alene said:Let's keep the discussion of the coup on it's own thread, thank you.
Golradir said:https://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php/topic,353208.msg8486001.html#msg8486001
^topic for the coup
never post again.Đяαкøℵ said:JESUS CHRIST I WILL NOT ALLOW A TEAM OF ISLAMIST F*CKHEAD MONKEY****S TO RUIN MY DREAM AND PROBABLY MASSACRE PEOPLE.
What we need to do is what America did to the Japanese. They deserved it and so does ISIS and all other similar groups. JUST NUKE THE MIDDLE EAST.
ToyBoat said:never post again.Đяαкøℵ said:JESUS CHRIST I WILL NOT ALLOW A TEAM OF ISLAMIST F*CKHEAD MONKEY****S TO RUIN MY DREAM AND PROBABLY MASSACRE PEOPLE.
What we need to do is what America did to the Japanese. They deserved it and so does ISIS and all other similar groups. JUST NUKE THE MIDDLE EAST.
I recently spoke about this:Yabloko said:Ban IMHO. But returning to Bannerlord...
Recent events have made me wonder if armies should be able to revolt and if lords should be able to stage a coup d'état.
In a tribal structure it would be hard to seize power, but in a roman-like empire we simply MUST have stabby senators and armies crossing the Rubicone.
Yaga said:Captain Lust, whether lords and conspire to overthrow the king?
The population was growing at the time, but the populations of Ethiopia and Eritrea are growing today. It's not an indication that the population isn't facing serious hardship and malnutrition, which was the certainly the case during this early medieval period of population growth.Mamlaz said:The period did experience a massive population boom though.
Mamlaz said:It is though, historian Michael Prestwich in his book Edward I states that even in the hostile environment in Wales, the average castle garrison a lord commanded was;
"In 1284 30 or 40 men to each was regarded as appropriate. In the rebellion of 1294-5 Harlech had twenty men, of whom two died during the siege, until reinforcements came from Ireland."
Other castles in less hostile areas had even less men, as few as 4-5.
You are utterly ignorant of the fact that the vast majority of the lords own armed men were not castle dweling rich pricks but freemen selected from those same villages you presume they oppressed.
Thus, if a lord wanted to go into a village to do some dirty business, he would have mighty issues doing so.
Mamlaz said:Alright, find me all those primary sources describing those evil lords going about their average day raping people and pillaging their own property.
I will wait.
Mamlaz said:The point is it rarely happened anywhere and had decades of time between them.
Meevar the Mighty said:The population was growing at the time, but the populations of Ethiopia and Eritrea are growing today. It's not an indication that the population isn't facing serious hardship and malnutrition, which was the certainly the case during this early medieval period of population growth.
Meevar the Mighty said:but the idea that these levies or their families would be remotely confident in any ability to overwhelm the few rich, well equipped and well trained retainers. It's a moot point though, since, a I said, even if they were somehow successful, someone else would come in to punish them.
Meevar the Mighty said:Keep tilting at straw men, but don't hold your breath.
Meevar the Mighty said:I'm not sure how that advances your argument rather than mine. It rarely happened because it almost inevitably failed. It happened sometimes because, even knowing how unlikely it was to advance their interests and how terrible the consequences of failure would be, the complainants were sometimes so desperate that they'd throw in their lot with a suicidal cause.
Mamlaz said:They have modern medicine and technology lol.
Starving and overly oppressed people did not experience population booms before the industrial revolution.
They also definitely did not dance, party and drink every Sunday and had more days off than modern workers have in the West.
Mamlaz said:My argument is that they would not have to at all(in most cases).
Even so, protecting your loved ones seems kinda a primary concern next to a possible negative outcome of resisting.
Mamlaz said:Demanding any evidence is now strawmaning?