Balance Patch: design insights + full changelog

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Hello everyone!

We prepared this thread alongside the 2 patch logs (one shortened and a full version), to give a little bit more insight on the changes and their intended impact.

With todays patch (actually a "hotfix") we have introduced a lot of new weapons, hundreds of item and perk changes and a lot of small improvements. These changes are based on community feedback (notably the meta thread of hairless, ogl and others, but also the many other topics in the forum from all of you), the analytics from the last few patches and obviously my own experience. While these changes are very Skirmish focused, there will be a more dedicated Captain mode balance + content update, but that is pending a little bit until we address the Rambo issue with game mechanics.

Have fun reading through all of this!

What's going on currently?
Right now shock troops reign in public but also competitive play. Together with cavalry they are the highest impact troops - while archers, heavy infantry and skirmishers are on the back foot.
These changes are trying to put those three weak classes more into focus, without taking the fun and sensible impact away from cavalry and shock inf, but rather making those more risky, high skill classes.

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First of all there were a lot of overpowered perks, reducing damage taken for this class. Basically all 2nd perks gave some sort of damage reduction. Now there is (in most cases) only one dedicated damage reduction perk, while the other ones stay as obvious damage upgrades but lose the damage reduction component. Also some shock troops saw a hike in price (or armor) dependent on the faction and individual performance they had. Actually most of the weapons stayed around the same power level, only some nerfs to the voulge and other weapons have hit some classes. The actual nerf next to the removal of damage reduction, was the reduction of their combat movement speed. Not making them slower overall, but rather slowing them down once they are inside of an engagement / fighting (swinging their weapons, blocking), this will make it much harder for them to backpedal out of predicaments.
Also their price in public gamemode has been very slightly raised.

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Javelins, Throwing Spears and the Throwing Axe have been buffed overall. Actually there was a hidden buff to all 1st perks of skirmishers giving them extra damage with javelins. That has been removed, but still overall the damage buff to those missle should now be greater than that hidden one. Expect them to make a bigger impact on the battlefield again. Otherwise some of the useless perks have been revised and prices have been adjusted regarding the troops power level.

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Right now seemingly a very low impact class, on the scoreboard at least, but surely the backbone of any successful skirmish team. With the skill perks they have been given new tools, especially to counter cav, but only very few ones to actually best other troops in melee fights.

Now with the overall introduction of more melee focused perks (like Melee Expert), an overall buff to many underperforming weapons and a better perk layout, you can expect heavy infantry to be proper beasts in melee encounters. Also their combat movements speeds have been increased across the board.

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This class has seen many changes in the past and is also seeing a lot with this set of changes. In Mount&Blade cavalry will always be a high impact troop and it's not our goal to change that, but rather make this impact scale with the player's skill. You will see a lot of nerfs but also buffs in the changelog for this troop type as a result of that.
Light cavs now use their cultures Long Spears on default, making them less reliant on infantry spear drops. The Line Breaker upgrades for light cav dont grant Lances anymore though, leaving those exclusively to heavy cavalry. Instead thses perks grant newly created cavalry spears.
Heavy Cavalry now have lances on default, leaving those pesky spears to the light cavalry and infantry plebs. This obviously resulted in some shift in their perks and weapon balance.

But also the mounts have changed. There have been some balancing changes to under-and over performing perk mounts, but also general changes. The barding of all heavy cavalry classes (and some light ones) has been lowered, but also all horse hitpoints have been increased. This will not make mounts more fragile overall, but rather punish you more for staying inside melee fights. Basically be more aware of cutting weapons and getting stuck in melee encounters now. Actually also still be aware of Heavy Infantry with the Cavalry Breaker perks, but maybe a bit less than before, since their bonus damage coming with the speed bonus have been halved. The raw extra damage to horses stayed at +100% though, so dont get stuck in! Undoubtedly they will still be able to punish you, especially by stopping you in your tracks, But deal less ridiculous damage with their spears on high speeds.

Also noteworthy is the change to couch lance, that now disengages more easily if your mount loses speed. And talking about speed, all horses have been slightly made slower.

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Archers have had a hard time intervening in fights, because the turning speed nerf has made it really hard for them to properly track their targets. This penalty has been reduced drastically. Also for their classes there have been very obvious choices for perks, leaving them with very little freedom in their equipment. For that I went over every bow in the game and completely revamped the perks and most default bows for archer classes. Especially light archer classes will find themselves with a much more useful selection of perks.
Now all upgrade bows are loosely based on a “stronger bow” variant of the default bow, so all of them are dealing more damage, but give bonuses that should serve each archers playstyle. Are you more of an melee archer, that prefers to be close to the melee and able to draw your bow quicker, or do rather have an advantage from a distance with faster projectiles or better accuracy?
Sadly one of the known issues is that the release speed of the bows/xbows is not displayed in the armory as of yet. So right now some of the “Distance” bow upgrades might not look great on paper, but do trust the descriptions, they actually do shoot further and faster projectiles.

Outside of the bow changes, which also feature a lot of new additions and a complete removal of duplicated bow meshes, there have been some changes to melee focused perks for archers. So if you are a melee focused archer, the new perks that combine a better melee weapon + a shield, with your low damage but fast drawing bow, is the one for you.

Also the speed switching between melee and ranged weapons (after releasing) has been increased!

We are aware of the current ping and fps problems. Be assured that we are looking into it and the making of this update didn't take any resources away from that process. Please keep the discussion in this thread balance and mechanic focused.

You can find the shortened version of this changelog in the
official patch log.

General Combat Changes​

Cavalry​

  • Couched lances will now disengage earlier on lower speeds
    • Does not affect the minimum required horse speed, to engage the couch lance
    • If you slow down too much while having a couch lance, your lance will disengage earlier than before
    • Same if you stop your horse with “SS"

Ranged​

  • Reduced the archer turncap
    • Turning your weapon while shooting is now faster again
  • Made weapon switching after releasing missiles faster
    • Now after you release your weapon you can switch to your melee weapon faster
  • Throwing Axes are now slightly less accurate
    • Their damage has been increased though

New Weapons​

Bows​

  • Hickory Crossbow
    • Heavy crossbow
    • Faster draw/reload
  • Heavy Crossbow
    • Heavy Crossbow
    • Version of Arbalest
    • Faster Draw
  • Mountain Hunting Bow
    • Light bow
    • New default for the Ranger (Battania)
  • Nordic Short Bow
    • Light Bow
    • New default for the Hunter (Sturgia)
  • Lowland Longbow
    • New upgrade bow for the Hunter + Ranger
  • Imperial Recurve Bow
    • Recurve bow variant
    • New default for Palatine Guard (Empire)
  • Woodland Longbow
    • Longbow variant
    • Upgrade Bow for Fian (Battania)
  • Tribesman Longbow
    • Longbow variant
    • Upgrade for Veteran (Aserai)
  • Nomad Short Bow
    • Shortbow variant
    • Default for Mounted Archer (Khuzait)

Arrows​

  • Removed generic Strong Arrows
  • Barbed Strong Arrows
    • For Aserai, Empire
  • Steppe Strong Arrows
    • For Khuzait
  • Bodkin Strong Arrows
    • For Sturgia, Battania
Spears
  • Western Cavalry Spear
    • Vanguard, Coruser perk spear
  • Western Lance
    • Knight, Cataphract default lance
  • Khuzait Cavalry Spear
    • Nomad perk spear
  • Aserai Bamboo Spear
    • Beduin perk spear
  • Aserai Long Lance
    • Mamluke perk lance
    • Revised
  • Sturgia Lance
    • Druzhinnik default lance
  • Battania Cavalry Spear
    • Mounted Warrior spear upgrade

Melee Weapons​

  • Heavy Spatha
    • Legionnaire perk sword
  • Billhook
    • Replaces 2h Sword perk on Voulgier
  • Farm Tools
    • Randomly granted by new Peasant (Vlandia) perk
    • 2 Two Handed Long Sickels
      • Can dismount horseman!
    • 2 Pitchforks
    • 1 Two Handed Shovel

General Item Changes​

Spears​

  • Vlandian Lance
    • Renamed to Western Lance
    • Speed 78 -> 76
  • Vlandian Heavy Lance
    • Speed 73 -> 71
  • Western Long Spear
    • Length 200 -> 196
    • Speed 85 -> 86
  • Khuzait Long Spear
    • Length 201 -> 196
    • Speed 85 -> 83
    • Damage 28 -> 31
  • Aserai Long Spear
    • Length 199 -> 195
  • Aserai Heavy Lance
    • Length 204 -> 200
    • Speed 74 -> 71
    • Damage 30 -> 34

Horses​

  • Reduced the charge damage of all mounts
    • 3-4 for light horses
    • 5-7 for heavy horses
    • 9-10 for charger
  • Reduced the speed of all mounts
  • Increased the hp of all mounts
    • +15 for light horses
    • +50 for heavy horses
  • Decreased the armor of most bardings
    • Check the class changes below
  • Decreased the weight of most bardings
    • Makes dashes (WW + SS) more effective
    • Check the class changes below

Bows + Crossbows​

  • Changed the way speed rating is calculated
    • Only because the value has changed doesn't mean that the weapon is actually slower
  • (Known Issue) The release speed, so how fast and far projectiles fly is not shown in the armory yet
    • So it may seem like some Bows+Crossbows
  • Keep in mind that many bows are not used in the same spot (classes,perks) anymore
  • Arbalest
    • Shoots further (not shown in armory yet)
  • Hunting Bow
    • Damage 38 -> 40
  • Short Bow
    • Accuracy 84 -> 90
  • Fast Short Bow
    • Accuracy 82-> 88
    • Damage 34 -> 46
  • Superior Bow
    • Made this into an accurate variant of the short bow
    • Accuracy 72 -> 98
    • Damage 32 -> 45
  • Recurve Bow
    • Accuracy 93 -> 95
    • Damage 50 -> 55
  • Composite Bow
    • Accuracy 95 -> 96
    • Damage 61 -> 65
  • Longbow
    • Accuracy 97 -> 95
    • Damage 70 -> 62
  • Yeow Longbow
    • Damage 77 -> 71
  • Hunting Longbow
    • Reduced tier
    • Accuracy 96 -> 90
    • Damage 60 -> 50

Other​

  • Rotated some sturgian shields so sichel are displayed correctly
  • Slightly adjusted Battania Wildling shields rotation
  • Fixed some items in the customization that were hidden/visible depending on the perk selection

Class Changes​

Vlandia​

Peasant​

  • Increased combat movement speed
    • Combat speed is not the overall movement speed
    • It's the movement speed a class has when doing actions (like attacking, blocking)
  • 1st Perk
    • Pickaxe Perk
      • Buffed weapon
    • Hammer Perk
      • Slightly buffed weapon
  • 2nd Perk
    • Farmer
      • +50% damage to horses
      • Grants a random farming tool (out of 5)
    • Village Militia
      • Combined Shield Perk
      • Grants Short Spear
      • Grants Shield

Voulgier​

  • Reduced combat movement speed
  • Increased price to 130
  • 1st Perk
    • Voulge (replaces Improved Armor perk)
      • Grants voulge (former default)
      • Nerfed the voulge speed and damage
    • Sword and Shield
      • Grants a Long Sword instead of Short Sword
    • Billhook (replaces Two Handed Sword perk)
      • Grants Billhook
      • Longer and slower than the voulge
  • 2nd Perk
    • Removed -20% Damage reduction from all perks
    • Moloch
      • +25% Shield Damage
      • +40% Speed Bonus Damage
    • Athletic
      • +5% movement speed
    • Improved Armor (replaces Beter Padding)

Sergeant​

  • Better default shield
    • Former shieldwall shield
  • +3 Armor
  • Increased combat movement speed
  • 1st Perk
    • Axe Expert
      • Grants Vlandian Axe
      • Buffed the axe damage and length
      • +20% damage to shields
      • Replaces Bastard Sword perk
    • Mace Expert
      • Grans Vlandian mace
      • Buffed mace
      • +4 Armor
    • Improved Armor
      • +9 Armor
      • Long Sword
  • 2nd Perk
    • Two Handed Sword
      • Grants a Two Handed Sword (from Voulgier)
      • Replaces Shieldwall perk
    • Melee Expert
      • +5% movement speed
      • +15% melee damage
      • Replaces Veteran perk
    • Cavalry Breaker
      • Speed Bonus damage 100% -> 50%

Arbelist​

  • 1st Perk
    • Range Crossbow
      • Stronger Crossbow
      • Shoots further / faster projectiles
    • Fast Crossbow
      • Stronger Crossbow
      • Can be reloaded faster
    • Sword and Shield
      • Combined Melee Weapon and Shield perk
      • Grants Longsword and former perk Shield

Sharpshooter​

  • 1st Perk
    • Range Crossbow
      • Stronger Crossbow
      • Shoots further / faster projectiles
    • Fast Crossbow
      • Stronger Crossbow
      • Can be reloaded faster

Vanguard​

  • Long Spear now default spear
  • 1st Perk
    • Agile horse
      • Slightly buffed horse
    • Better Barding
      • Barding armor 22 -> 18
      • Barding weight 80 -> 55
      • Changed place with Improved Armor perk
  • 2nd Perk
    • Line Breaker
      • Grants Western Cavalry Spear
    • Improved Armor
      • changed place with Better Barding

Knight​

  • Default horse nerfed slightly
  • Barding Armor 36 -> +23
  • Badring Weight 150 -> 110
  • 1st Perk
    • Faster Horse
      • Nerfed slightly
  • 2nd Perk
    • Guardian
      • Grants Wide Heater Shield
      • Bigger and wider
    • Heavy Lance
      • Slightly slower

Empire​

Recruit​

  • Reduced movement speed
  • 1st Perk
    • Specialist
      • Initial Accuracy Penalty -80%
      • Faster Accuracy Penalty -50%
    • Strong Arm
      • Grants Pilum
      • Throwing damage +20%
    • Rapid throws
      • Mp_javelin_extraammo
      • +5% Missile Release Speed
      • +10% Ready Speed
  • 2nd Perk
    • Long Sword
      • Grants Spatha
    • Footwork
      • -80% Moving Accuracy Penalty
      • +5% Movement Speed
    • Shieldwall
      • Grants better shield
      • -20% Damage Taken from Ranged

Menavlion Infantry​

  • Reduce combat movement speed
  • Default menavlion
    • Reduce Cut Damage
    • Reduce Thrust Damage drastically
  • Perk 1
    • Heavy Menavlion
      • Reduce damage
    • Longer Menavlion
      • Reduce Thrust Damage drastically
  • Perk 2
    • Remove “Reduced Damage from Melee” from all
    • Cavalry Breaker
      • Speed Bonus reduced to 50%
    • Armor Padding
      • Reduced damage 10%

Legionary​

  • Increased combat movement speed
  • Price 160 -> 150
  • 1st Perk
    • Removed Bastard Sword Perk
    • Axe Specialist
      • Damage to shields +20%
      • Grants Heavy Axe
    • Mace Specialist
      • Made mace stronger
      • Grants +4 Armor
    • Sword and better shield
      • Grants Heavy Spatha
        • New weapon
        • Stronger version of Spatha
      • Grants reinforced shield
      • Replaces Improved Armor perk (moved to 2nd slot)
  • 2nd Perk
    • Cavalry Breaker
      • Speed Bonus damage 100% -> 50%
    • Improved Armor
      • Replaced Shieldwall perk
      • +9 Armor
    • Melee Expert
      • +5% movement speed
      • +15% melee damage
      • Replaces Veteran perk

Archer Militia​

  • 1st Perk
    • Range Bow
      • Stronger bow
      • Shoots further / faster projectiles
    • Faster Bow
      • Stronger bow
      • Can be reloaded faster
    • Superior Bow
      • Stronger bow
      • Is more accurate
  • 2nd Perk
    • Bullseye
      • +10% headshot damage
      • Replaces Pin Cushion perk

Palatine Guard​

  • New default bow
    • An imperial variant of the recurve bow
  • 1st Perk
    • Crossbow
      • Replaced Light Crossbow with Crossbow
    • Composite Bow
      • Grants Composite bow
      • Draws faster, deals more damage but is less accurate
  • 2nd Perk
    • Warden
      • Made Imperial Polearm longer
      • Removed “Damage from cut -10%”
    • Bullseye
      • +5% ranged damage
      • +5% headshot damage

Courser​

  • New default spear
    • Western Long Spear
  • 1st Perk
  • 2nd Perk
    • Auxiliary
      • Gold per kill 10 -> 20
    • Line Breaker
      • Grants Western Cavalry Spear

Cataphract​

  • Barding armor 35 -> 24
  • Barding weight 140 -> 110
  • New default lance
    • Western Lance
    • Replaces Long Spear

Khuzait​

Rabble​

  • 1st Perk
    • Sickle
      • Buffed Sickle

Spear Infantry​

  • Better default shield
    • Former shieldwall shield
  • 1st Perk
    • Mace
      • Grants Khuzait Heavy Mace
      • Replaces Long Spear perk
    • Heavy Sabre
      • Grants Heavy Ild
      • Replaces Strong Shield perk
  • 2nd Perk
    • Steppe Infantry
      • +5% movement speed
      • +10% melee damage
      • Grants Khuzait Spear
      • Replaces Nimble perk
    • Cavalry Breaker
      • +100% mount damage
      • Speed bonus damage +100% -> +50%
      • Grants Long Spear
    • Big Game Hunter
      • Made throwing spear better
      • +100% Extra mount damage now only applies with ranged attack
      • Removed release throwing speed bonus

Steppe Bow​

  • 1st Perk
    • Range Bow
      • Stronger bow
      • Shoots further / faster projectiles
    • Faster Bow
      • Stronger bow
      • Can be reloaded faster
    • Superior Bow
      • Stronger bow
      • Is more accurate
  • 2nd Perk

Khan’s Guard​

  • New default bow
    • Recurve bow
  • 1st Perk
    • Shield and Heavy Mace
      • Grants shield from Hardened perk
      • Grants Khuzait Heavy Mace
    • Composite Bow
      • Grants Composite bow
      • Draws faster, deals more damage but is less accurate
  • 2nd Perk
    • Mobility
      • -25% movement speed penalty when aiming
      • -80% accuracy penalty when turning
      • -80% accuracy penalty when moving
      • Replaces Hardened perk

Nomad​

  • 2nd Perk
    • Line Breaker
      • Grants Khuzait Cavalry Spear
      • Was granting a lance before

Mounted Archer​

  • Casual mode price: 250
  • New default bow
    • Nomad Short Bow
    • More accurate, faster missile release speed
  • 1st Perk
    • Better Bow
      • Grants Recurve Bow
    • Tougher Horse
      • Slightly buffed the horse
  • 2nd Perk
    • Mounted Archery
      • Removed Extra Steppe Arrows
    • Well equipped
      • Grants small shield
      • Grants Extra Steppe Arrows
      • Replaces Small Shield perk
    • Mounted Marksman
      • Grants Heavy Steppe Arrows
      • +10% damage on headshots

Lancer​

  • Barding armor 32 -> 21
  • Barding weight 140 -> 110
  • 1st Perk
    • Khuzait Lance
      • Grants Khuzait lance
      • Deals more damage, is faster but shorter

Aserai​

Tribal Warrior​

  • Increased movement speed 79 -> 81
  • Better default shield
    • Former shieldwall shield
  • +3 Armor
  • 1st Perk
    • Mace
      • Buffed the Aserai Mace
    • Axe
      • Grants Aserai Axe
      • Buffed the Aserai Axe
  • 2nd Perk
    • Tribesmen
      • +10% melee damage
      • +5% movement speed
    • Spearman
      • +75% Damage to mounts
      • Grants Aserai Long Spear

Skirmisher​

  • New default Javelins
    • Jereed
  • Reduced movement speed to 82
  • Removed a hidden damage bonus from perks
  • 1st Perk
    • Axe
      • Buffed the Aserai Axe
    • Spear and Shield
      • Grants shield from Fortified perk
      • Grants Aserai Spear
  • 2nd Perk
    • Rapid Throws
      • +10% ready speed
      • Grants +2 Jereeds
      • Removed +5% missile release speed
      • Removed -10% ranged damage taken
    • Athletic
      • +5% movement speed
      • Replaces Fortified perk
    • Impaler
      • +20% throwing damage
      • Removed -10% ranged damage taken

Guard​

  • Price 120 -> 130
  • +4 Armor
  • 1st Perk
    • Two Handed Sword
      • Buffed the Aserai Two Handed Sword slightly
  • 2nd Perk
    • Moloch
      • +25% damage against shields
      • +40% speed bonus on damage on foot
      • Replaced Shield Breaker
    • Sturdy
      • Melee damage taken -30% -> -20%
    • Athletic
      • +5% movement speed

Archer​

  • 1st Perk
    • Range Bow
      • Stronger bow
      • Shoots further / faster projectiles
    • Faster Bow
      • Stronger bow
      • Can be reloaded faster
    • Superior Bow
      • Stronger bow
      • Is more accurate
  • 2nd Perk
    • Replenished
      • Grants Extra Barbed Arrows
      • +25% reload speed

Veteran​

  • Cost 160 -> 150
  • New default bow
    • Recurve Bow
  • 1st Perk
    • Composite Bow
      • Grants Composite bow
      • Draws faster, deals more damage but is less accurate
    • Longbow
      • Grants Tribesman Longbow
      • Deals more damage, is more accurate, draws slower
      • Replaces Heavy Mace perk
  • 2nd Perk
    • Fighter
      • Grants Aserai Heavy Mace
      • Grants shield
      • -25% movement penalty when aiming
      • Replaces Tactful perk

Beduin​

  • New default spear
    • Aserai Long Spear
  • 1st Perk
    • Agile Horse
      • Slightly buffed horse
    • Camel
      • Nerfed camel
  • 2nd Perk
    • Line Breaker
      • Grants Aserai Bamboo Spear

Mamluke​

  • Barding armor 17 -> 15
  • Barding weight 80 -> 70
  • 1st perk
    • Barding
      • Barding armor 34 -> 26
      • Barding weight 140 -> 110
  • 2nd Perk
    • Dragoon
      • Grants bigger shield
      • Grants Bamboo Lance
      • Removed swing, ranged and mount damage bonuses
    • Lancer
      • +33% speed bonus on attacks when mounted
      • Grants Aserai Heavy Lance
      • Made the lance slightly slower
      • Replaces Heavy Lance perk

Sturgia​

Warrior​

  • Increased movement speed to 81

Brigand​

  • Reduced movement speed to 81
  • Removed a hidden damage bonus from perks
  • 2nd Perk
    • Axe Thrower
      • Grants Throwing Axes
      • Throwing axes deal much more damage but are less accurate
      • +30% damage to shields

Berserker​

  • Reduced movement speed to 81
  • Reduced acceleration speed
  • Price 120 -> 130
  • Reduced armor 6 -> 2
  • Default Weapon
    • Reduced damage
  • 1st Perk
    • Great Axe
      • Reduced damage of weapon
  • 2nd Perk
    • Shield Breaker
      • Removed -20% melee damage taken
      • Increased damage to shields +20% -> +30%
    • Blood Rage
      • Damage taken per 20hp lost -12% -> -5%
    • Athletic
      • Running speed +5% -> +7%
      • Removed -20% melee damage taken

Varyag​

  • Increased combat movement speed
  • Default weapon
    • Reduced damage of axe
  • 1st Perk
    • Axe Specialist
      • Grants Noble Axe
      • +20% shield damage
      • Replaces Mace perk
    • Sword and Shield
      • Grants stronger shield
        • Former Shieldwall perk
      • Grants Sturgian Sword
        • Former Veteran perk
        • Made sword longer
  • 2nd Perk
    • Cavalry Breaker
      • Speed bonus damage +100% -> +50%
    • Feller
      • +20% melee damage with cut weapons
    • Brawny
      • +5% movement speed
      • +15% speed bonus on melee damage
      • Replaces Shieldwall Perk

Hunter​

  • New default bow
    • Nordic Short Bow
  • 1st Perk
    • Range Longbow
      • Grants Longbow
      • Shoots further / faster projectiles
    • Faster Longbow
      • Grants longbow
      • Can be reloaded faster
    • Sword and Shield
      • Grants Shield
        • Former Hardened perk
      • Grants Strugian Sword
  • 2nd Perk
    • Poacher
      • Grants strong Bodkin Arrows
      • +50% damage against mounts
      • Replaces Hardened perk

Raider​

  • Reduced barding armor from 8 to 0
  • 2nd Perk
    • Spearhead
      • Buffed Sturgian Great Spear
      • Removed -10% mount damage taken from range
    • Blood Money
      • Gold per kill +10 -> +20

Druzhinnik​

  • Barding armor 18 -> 15
  • New default weapon
    • Strugain Lance
  • 1st Perk
    • Agile Horse
      • Slightly buffed the horse
    • Barding
      • Barding armor 34 -> 26
      • Barding weight 140 -> 110
  • 2nd Perk
    • Axe + Shield
      • Grants Bastard Axe
      • Grants better shield
      • +10% swing speed on horseback
      • Replaces Guardian

Battania​

Clan Warrior​

  • 1st Perk
    • Club
      • Buffed weapon

Savage​

  • Reduced movement speed to 81
  • Reduced acceleration speed
  • Armor 3 -> 2
  • Default weapon
    • Reduced damage
    • Removed bonus damage to shields
    • Twohanded only
  • 1st Perk
    • Rhomphaia
      • Slightly nerfed weapon
  • 2nd Perk
    • Athletic
      • +5% movement speed (+7% in captain mode)
      • Removed -20% damage taken from melee
      • Removed +50% speed bonus damage
    • Thick Skin
      • Damage taken from cut damage -20% -> -25%
      • Removed -20% damage taken from melee

Wildling​

  • Reduced movement speed to 82
  • Cost 120 -> 130
  • Default shield
    • Adjusted rotation so it covers more of the body
    • Switched visuals with the perkn shield
  • Removed a hidden damage bonus from perks
  • 1st Perk
    • Mace and Shield
      • Grants Club
        • Same as clan warrior
      • Grants better shield
        • From Stronger Shield perk
      • Replaces Club perk
    • Footwork
      • +5% movement speed
      • +50% accuracy when moving
      • Replaces Stronger Shield perk
  • 2nd Perk
    • Rapid Throws
      • Grants (6) Javelins
      • +5% missile release speed
      • +10% ready speed
    • Strong Arm
      • Grants Throwing Spear
        • Increased damage
    • Chieftain
      • Grants (3) Battanian Javelin
      • +60% initial ranged accuracy
      • +70% faster range accuracy
      • Removed -20% ranged damage taken

Oathsworn​

  • Increased combat movement speed
  • Default Shield
    • Fromer Shieldwall perk shield
  • 1st Perk
    • Mace Specialist
      • Grants Battania Heavy Mace
      • +4 Armor
    • Axe Specialist
      • Grants Highland Axe
      • +20% damage on shields
      • Removed +10% damage dealt
  • 2nd Perk
    • Melee Expert
      • +5% movement speed
      • +15% melee damage
      • Replaces Shieldwall perk
    • Cavalry Breaker
      • Speed bonus on pierce damage +100% -> +50%
    • Veteran
      • +40% speed bonus on melee damage
      • +5% melee damage

Ranger​

  • New default bow
    • Mountain Hunting Bow
  • 1st Perk
    • Range Longbow
      • Longbow
      • Shoots further / faster projectiles
    • Faster Longbow
      • Longbow
      • Can be reloaded faster
    • Two Handed Axe
      • +5% movement speed
  • 2nd Perk
    • Mobility
      • Adjusted description to fit the perk effect

Fiann​

  • Default Bow
    • Longbow
  • Default weapon
    • Made Battanian Two Handed Sword slower but longer
  • 1st Perk
    • Faster Longbow
      • Grants Woodland Longbow
      • Can be reloaded faster
    • Range Longbow
      • Grants Yeow Longbow
      • Shoots further / faster projectiles
  • 2nd Perk
    • Frontliner
      • Buffed Noble Two Handed Sword
        • Deals more damage, is longer, but slower
        • Not a bastard sword anymore
      • -60% moving accuracy penalty
      • +5 movement speed

Mounted Warrior​

  • Default spear
    • Battanian Long Spear
  • 1st Perk
    • Agile Horse
      • Buffed horse
  • 2nd Perk
    • Reinforced Half Barding
      • Barding armor 21 -> 16
      • Barding weight 85 -> 75
    • Line Breaker
      • Grants Battanian Cavalry Spear
 
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Koso

Squire
It seems very satisfying far as I read on paper. Thank you for your great work @NIN3 you are the flower of this community 😍
 

five bucks

Knight
Looks cool. I'm still confused why Taleworlds thinks the Menavlion is a slashing weapon though. They were pikes historically.
 

Einarcf

Master Knight
M&BWBWF&SNWVC
Okay, this looks interesting. Very promosing. Can't wait to test it out. Sure, there is bound to be some unintended outcomes with such a big change list, but overall it seems great. I think the write up with what needs to be changed is bullseye
 

Danny5

Squire
Nice update! Perks looks like it's getting better, balancing is still improving. I need to test it out now :razz:
 

Demochi

Sergeant at Arms
WBWF&SNWVC
Most of these changes sound very sensible! Thank you TW for putting NIN3 in charge of the multiplayer balance, and thank you @NIN3 for your dedicated work! Keep it up.
 

Chiprel

Veteran
Hey guys, thanks for update but there seems to be huge bug with berserker atm. Perk blood rage is bugged. Enemies can't do any damage to berserker. Only arrows work but melee weapons do not work at all.
@NIN3
 

NIN3

Level Design, Combat Design
Developer
NW
Thank you everyone for your feedback!

Small update:
We are applying a fix to the Berserker class right now. (Live servers might shut down because of it, or you might crash if you join a server with the old version)

Hey guys, thanks for update but there seems to be huge bug with berserker atm. Perk blood rage is bugged. Enemies can't do any damage to berserker. Only arrows work but melee weapons do not work at all.
@NIN3
Fix is being applied right now. Sorry for it! Was an oversight on my part.
 

Errayn

Sergeant Knight
Thank you everyone for your feedback!

Small update:
We are applying a fix to the Berserker class right now. (Live servers might shut down because of it, or you might crash if you join a server with the old version)


Fix is being applied right now. Sorry for it! Was an oversight on my part.
Could you also bring back 2h swords to the duel mode (as an only duel mode perk for heavy classes) ?
edit: there is 2h sword in passive perk slot sry my bad. (But battanian and Sturgian heavy inf has no 2h now)
 
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VicbossOG

Regular
Was trying to play Captain Mode and that is only allowing 1v1's atm. Also another player informed me that when he was using Vlandian Sergeants in the mode half of his men had no shields and the other half had 2 shields. Also saw the Blood Rage bug. Just figured I would bring it to your attention. I also noticed when I picked Vlandian Sergeant with 2 handed sword I could not use it with my shield in a 1 handed mode.
 
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