Aye, i was assuming that, but wasn't sure if other numbers are playing a role as well.
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Bows are WAY too accurate.
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Aye, i was assuming that, but wasn't sure if other numbers are playing a role as well.
Forest bandits have 150 Bow skill, they are actually one of the better archers in the game.
Thanks cap. The point being is that you as player have no input there. If aiming reticle would be swaying, you could still lose an arrow at right time, but instead it's just a "shotgun" with a change of spread depending on speed.
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I'll copy paste this from another thread I responded to.
Archery accuracy should be nerfed at lower levels and then scale up. Right now archery is too good at lower levels. It took a lot of training to train good archers, which is why crossbows became so popular. Archery damage should also be scaled back with lower level bows / arrows and scaled up for higher tier. It feels like all bows and arrows are sort of in the middle, and there is no real incentive to buy the best stuff.
Archery accuracy should be nerfed at lower levels and then scale up. Right now archery is too good at lower levels. It took a lot of training to train good archers, which is why crossbows became so popular. Archery damage should also be scaled back with lower level bows / arrows and scaled up for higher tier. It feels like all bows and arrows are sort of in the middle, and there is no real incentive to buy the best stuff.
Asimov123
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I just hope they change javelins to be more effective against shields. If you have a shield with three javelins in it, that shield should be useless. I'm fine with this just being represented by javelins dealing extra damage to shields. Let them do 100 damage to a shield.
As for bows. Scaling the time you have before your aim worsens and the time it takes to get the smallest reticle would do a lot.
I'd also love it if the reticle stayed the same size but instead started wavering around, I dislike the Rng mechanic of a larger reticle.
A low level bow player can still be accurate, but only for a very short time and it would be a lot more difficult to lead on a moving target.
You can still shoot fast, but at the cost of accuracy.
As for bows. Scaling the time you have before your aim worsens and the time it takes to get the smallest reticle would do a lot.
I'd also love it if the reticle stayed the same size but instead started wavering around, I dislike the Rng mechanic of a larger reticle.
A low level bow player can still be accurate, but only for a very short time and it would be a lot more difficult to lead on a moving target.
You can still shoot fast, but at the cost of accuracy.
Zaim Zuhaili
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Most people here are f1 + f3 player and they unit die by their archer and cry and post PLS NERF ARCHER. pftt git gud
And some have no clue what they are talking about because they never played as HA army and won against 2-3 times larger armies with barely any losses.
Bushwackers have something like 40, there are just a couple of forest bandits in forest bandits parties. The fact Is that lower skill just means worse Gear: accuracy Is always 100% at maximum now range.
They solved the matter for looters by lowering Stones accuracy...It means modded looters with 300 throwing has similar accuracy of looters with 40 throwing.
Right now AI accuracy doesn't work much but It Is simulated by Gear requirement and player accuracy at low levels Is too high.
Solved? Looters still hit you damn well even when you're riding on horseback. And the stones still do too much damage to armored targets.
Uhm. "They unit die by their archer" is somewhat cryptic, but if I understand what you are saying you are implying that archers are a problem players can't deal with. The point made in this thread is actually the opposite, archers in the player's hand make the game trivial. I hope that clarifies it for you.
Agreed, it's better than it was but it's still silly.
I noticed that looters miss when they throw stones at max range (regardless their skill because stone accuracy nerf) and killing them as horse archer it is far easier. You had to snipe them from max distance before they starting throwing at you, now you have more time before moving away. They are still 100% accurate from short and medium throwing range so if you melee doesn't change too much.
Seriously, Looters are ridiculous. I'm sick of the LASER GUIDED rock throws from Looters who can hit me at long range while I'm moving full speed on my horse at an oblique angle 3 out of 4 times, let alone anything more dangerous from other enemies.
And yeah, if others are even close to that good with javelins and bows it's terrifying. Especially given the AI's predisposition to target the PC instead of other troops on the field.
And yeah, if others are even close to that good with javelins and bows it's terrifying. Especially given the AI's predisposition to target the PC instead of other troops on the field.
Yeah the AI definitely has ballistics researched ^^
Right? Starting character fighting 5 looters feels like playing Pendor against 5 Noldor!
SissiJaeger
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Do you understand that irl mongol archers skill were ranked by their ability to shoot from full gallop and split the arrow in two on a stationary blade?
Do you understand that irl saracen archer was required that they could shoot 3 arrows within 1.5 seconds?
Do you understand that irl saracen archer was required that they could shoot 3 arrows within 1.5 seconds?
it's not just looters though, I watch my units chuck javelins at a 70 degree angle in the sky and take out people 80 yards away
Have you ever shot a real bow dude? i'm not talking a compound bow either
Doubt...
SissiJaeger
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Do you mean that they do very little damage against plate armor? Which doesnt exist in the game. Mongol warbow could kill armored target upto 400m.
