Bows are WAY too accurate.

[SissiJaeger]

"Longbows shoot around 65 to 75 m/s with heavy arrows and mongol, korean, chinese bows shoot close to 80-95 m/s depending on the arrow."

"AND THOSE ARE NOT EVEN WAR BOWS the highest poundage is 55 pounds. English longbow and mongol composite bows war variants are 90-140lb"

 

[SissiJaeger]

And his highest mass of arrow was 28.34952 gram, which is at least half of the war arrow.

 

[Viik]

You clearly dont know please go away.

Let's start with this:

 

[SissiJaeger]

62m/s with war arrow

 

[Viik]

160lbs bow at point blank, 210 fps = 64 m/s
My bad it's 145, not 160

 

[SissiJaeger]

Eastern composite bows have way longer powerstroke so add that into you calcs too.

 

[Viik]

Eastern composite bows have way longer powerstroke so add that into you calcs too.

The average in his experiments is still around 55m/s not 75m/s.
Yes they might, but most likely not on 145lbs bows. A modern compound bow shoots just above speed ranges that you claim for asian bows.

And don't forget that these tests are at point blank. Old arrows are not as aerodynamic as modern, they will lose roughly 10-20% of that speed just at 50 meters. There is another test with Joe Gibbs, where they shoot 160lbs bow at plate, the velocity at target was lower than in these tests.

 

[SissiJaeger]

Yes I might have overstated on the asian bow part but it is proven and reocorded that they shot greater speeds, greater distances and better effectiveness compared to longbow. So what we can take from that is their speeds are greater than the longbows from the tests.

 

[Viik]

Yes I might have overstated on the asian bow part but it is proven and reocorded that they shot greater speeds, greater distances and better effectiveness compared to longbow. So what we can take from that is their speeds are greater than the longbows from the tests.

Makes sense. I just thought you where bringing up flight arrow bows, which people often do. But I see what you mean.

 

[Paper Tulip]

Best solution is just straight up nerf bow damage by 50%. Give common arrows cutting tipe. Give barded arrows cutting tipe and give them good damage. Give bodkin pierce and medium damage. And we already have turney arrows with blunt type.

 

[Lord Irontoe]

The bows aren't the problem. Its the archers who are too accurate even at low archery skills. They need to make the skills really work properly so that a Bushwacker with 40 Archery isn't nailing you in the head from 200 yards while you're riding full speed.

 

[Paper Tulip]

The bows aren't the problem. Its the archers who are too accurate even at low archery skills. They need to make the skills really work properly so that a Bushwacker with 40 Archery isn't nailing you in the head from 200 yards while you're riding full speed.

They already dont do thet. Forest archers cant hit you consistently, when you galoping at full speed in circles. Horse archers cant hit you at all if you galoping in circles, i would say stepp bandits is easiest bandits for soloing, you can easely kill them without taking damage. End event then archers aiming at yours centr of mass, The mostly hit your horse.

 

[Lord Irontoe]

they always hit me just fine

 

[Paper Tulip]

they always hit me just fine

You are exaggerating. Just lucky shot. You can easely ride in circles till they have no arrows, its just boring and tedious.

 

[Lord Irontoe]

I'm not exaggerating. I ride circles around forest bandits and they pepper me and my horse with arrows

 

[Odione]

Bows are like modern snipers. It's so boring. If you wanna win, go 100 bowman. BOOM! Congrats you won! No need to move your character….

Before I even tell the rest of the army to move, the fight is over with even 30% bowman… pew, pew, pew, pew, pew, victory!

FIX THIS AND NOT NERF THE INCOME EVERY PATCH! FOCUS ON MORE INPORTANT STUFF PLEASE!

 

[black_bulldog]

You are exaggerating. Just lucky shot. You can easely ride in circles till they have no arrows, its just boring and tedious.

Dude I get consistently hit with stones from looters while riding at an oblique angle at full speed. The projectiles are too accurate. I've use a bow in tournaments/practice arena and I can pretty easily get head shots from a distance of 60 with zero points in bow. There is something seriously wrong with that.

 

[SissiJaeger]

Bows are like modern snipers. It's so boring. If you wanna win, go 100 bowman. BOOM! Congrats you won! No need to move your character….

Before I even tell the rest of the army to move, the fight is over with even 30% bowman… pew, pew, pew, pew, pew, victory!

FIX THIS AND NOT NERF THE INCOME EVERY PATCH! FOCUS ON MORE INPORTANT STUFF PLEASE!

They need to update how the ai uses their shields and how the ai lords deal with archers.
Im done on this post I have proven my point and stated the evidence. There are links to historical stuff earlier on.