Whats really going on in the world?

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Interesting, I will counter with the following.

Kalevela Runo XXVI:1-14 said:
Ahti oli saarella asuva
Kaukoniemen kainalossa
Oli pellon kynnännässä,
vainon vakoannassa.
Korvalta ylen korea,
kovin tarkka kuulennalta.
Kuulevi jumun kylältä
järyn järvien takoa,
jalan iskun iljeneltä,
reen kapinan kankahalta.
Juohtui juoni mielehensä,
tuuma aivohon osasi:
häitä Pohjola pitävi,
salajoukko juominkia!

(Ahti dwelt upon an island,
By the bay near Kauko's headland,
And his fields he tilled industrious,
And the fields he trenched with ploughing,
And his ears were of the finest,
And his hearing of the keenest.
Heard he shouting in the village,
From the lake came sounds of hammering,
On the ice the sound of footsteps,
On the heath a sledge was rattling.
Therefore in his mind he fancied,
In his brain the notion entered,
That at Pohjola was wedding,
And a drinking-bout in secret.)
 
What's the economic system that is Godly then?

Good question. Answer:

Act 2:45  And sold their possessions and goods, and parted them to all men, as every man had need.
Act 2:46  And they, continuing daily with one accord in the temple, and breaking bread from house to house, did eat their meat with gladness and singleness of heart,

Neither was there any among them that lacked: for as many as were possessors of lands or houses sold them, and brought the prices of the things that were sold,
Act 4:35  And laid them down at the apostles' feet: and distribution was made unto every man according as he had need.
 
As always, Godfrey is fast to pretend that he's superior to everyone else. What ever happened to humility before your god?
rgodfrey said:
That if they do not get it together soon, A worst hell awaits them below.
Eh, bring it on. Only a coward would convert out of fear, and no god worthy of the title would accept a cowards prayers.
 
Timothy the Knight said:
Not exactly a very straight answer. Some clarification wouldn't hurt.

There is no real freedom out side of Jesus Christ, men will always put you in bondage when they receive to much power, "Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely. Great men are almost always bad men."

 
Rgodfrey! Stop misquoting one of my favorite bible passages! Catholicism an't conquering the world, you noob, it's dieing. So you really don't need to worry, because the white horseman has no arrows in his quiver. God dammit, it's not that hard, you really have to learn you're bible.
 
FLEXING ME MUSSELS BRO!

flexing-mussels.bmp
 
Timothy the Knight said:
So the only way to be free is to become detached from all other obligations and serve only some higher power?

The only way to be free is to go to the water in Jesus name, so that the spirit of God can climb into you, to be filled with the holy ghost, or Jesus himself. Not some higher power, thee highest power.

Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
Verily, verily, I say unto you, I am the door of the sheep.
Joh 10:8  All that ever came before me are thieves and robbers: but the sheep did not hear them.
Joh 10:9  I am the door: by me if any man enter in, he shall be saved, and shall go in and out, and find pasture.
Joh 10:10  The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly.
Joh 10:11  I am the good shepherd: the good shepherd giveth his life for the sheep.

 
rgodfrey said:
There is no real freedom out side of Jesus Christ,
But he's not on hand, and you've already said that he won't be coming back until the various pagan religions die out.
rgodfrey said:
men will always put you in bondage when they receive to much power,
...Sounds kind of kinky. Couldn't they just cuddle instead? ^.^;
rgodfrey said:
"Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely."
Since your god is supposed to be the most powerful of all, doesn't this mean it's the most corrupt of all things?
 
So only this highest power is allowed to limit freedom? So, exactly what makes it so much more authoritative from these other, supposed "highest powers" that are available in many flavours, shapes and sizes?
 
But he's not on hand, and you've already said that he won't be coming back until the various pagan religions die out.

God is Omnipresent, he is not limited to mans degree, GOD RIDES  ON THE WATER  HE RIDES  ON THE FLOOD  AND THERE AIN’T  NO POWER  FROM HELL  THAT’S GONNA STOP  GOD’S WINGS  OF LOVE
AND  I FEEL  THE WINGS  OF MERCY REIGN  FROM  ABOVE  OH  GOD  RIDES ON WINGS  OF LOVE, WHEN YOU CRY  EVERY NIGHT OVER THINGS  THAT AREN’T RIGHT  ALL AROUND, YOU JUST  GIVE IT A SHOUT THOSE WALLS  OF DOUBT  WILL COME DOWN, YA SEE  GOD’S  NOT LIMITED  BY MAN’S DEGREE, HE’S NOT AFRAID  OF THOSE ARMY’S  YOU SEE,  JUST TURN AROUND AND STAND YOUR GROUND YOU’RE GONNA  BE FREE, WHEN YOUR BACK’S AGAINST THE WALL AND YOU TRY TO STAND TALL  IN FAITH, YOU CAN’T  GO UNDER  AND YOU CAN’T  GO AROUND AND SO  YOU WAIT, NOW EVEN  WHEN YOU DON’T  UNDERSTAND YOU’RE STILL  IN THE PALM  OF HIS  HAND, SO  YOU JUST WAIT  ‘CAUSE  HE WON’T  BE LATE HE’S JUST WORKIN’ HIS PLAN
 
rgodfrey said:
God is Omnipresent, he is not limited to mans degree
You said earlier that Yeshua won't come back until everyone follows the one world religion. Do you not read your own copy-pasta? I have power over your god. Muhahahahah! :twisted:
 
rgodfrey said:
What's the economic system that is Godly then?
Good question. Answer:

Act 2:45  And sold their possessions and goods, and parted them to all men, as every man had need.
Act 2:46  And they, continuing daily with one accord in the temple, and breaking bread from house to house, did eat their meat with gladness and singleness of heart,

Neither was there any among them that lacked: for as many as were possessors of lands or houses sold them, and brought the prices of the things that were sold,
Act 4:35  And laid them down at the apostles' feet: and distribution was made unto every man according as he had need.
Timothy the Knight said:
Sound like an awful lot like socialism to me.

Yerp. Sure is. Was hoping godfrey would bite on that one.
 
Timothy the Knight said:
So only this highest power is allowed to limit freedom? So, exactly what makes it so much more authoritative from these other, supposed "highest powers" that are available in many flavours, shapes and sizes?

You will have to come to the alter to experience it for yourself, its like fire shut up in my bones! Power to heal the sick, power to raise the dead, power to open up blind eyes, I am talk about real raw holy ghost power!
 
The only feeling i'm getting from the holy ghost about you is that of a failure of a false prophet. Right now everyone i meet in the supernatural plane is loling at you're fail. just saying.
 
rgodfrey said:
Power to heal the sick, power to raise the dead, power to open up blind eyes, I am talk about real raw holy ghost power!
And yet, neither you nor any other "empowered" Christian has ever bothered to use these magical powers to help anyone, nor used them in an observable fashion. Funny that.
 
Shatari said:
rgodfrey said:
God is Omnipresent, he is not limited to mans degree
You said earlier that Yeshua won't come back until everyone follows the one world religion. Do you not read your own copy-pasta? I have power over your god. Muhahahahah! :twisted:

Look up the word Omnipresent, while it is true he will not return in his Physical form until after the battle of Armageddon, he can be everywhere in his spirit form and give you a small measure of himself
 
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