Yes but when game mechanics are imba AND unrealistic they trigger twice.
Taking throwables out of Skirmish is complete nonsense. That would be just another huge buff to cavalry (and a minor buff to archers). Just lower the melee damage of throwing spears to that of equal size spears.
I mean, I've been wanting to see more gamey elements be put into Bannerlord if it means less abhorrent balance. I still think that TaleWorlds could learn a few things from fighting games regarding a less frustrating multiplayer.
Kinda depends, if the throwing spear is thrown off a building and goes down it would gain serious velocity and do lethal damage for sure. theres a lot of factors to take into account. but we aint here to discuss realism are we?
Granted. A spear trown downhill would certainly gain momentum.
No offence, but i dont think you know how throwing mechanism works, bow shooting mechanism relying on same physics that human body uses to throw thing, its called lever arm mechanics, only difference is that bow is artificial one mechanism instead
Agree on realism, i would rather play an immersive game that is cool to feel instead of balanced game which needs you to reassure your knowledge about physics of real world to understand how to play a game
Not quite, the spear thrusts in the game do not have quite the windup as the spear throws do, and in real life, proper spear technique is to simply "flick" thrusts, as a large motion as telegraphed as a windup to throw a spear would be countered in a melee.
Yeah but a large range of motion as windup to throw does not neccesarily mean more speed. Its all about using specific mechanics to make the most out of that limited windup motion; just as we see with punching strikes in boxing or mma
Yes this range of motion is what I obviously was referring to when I say "windup". Windup to a proper throw involves a lot of muscles from the shoulders to twisting the hips and turning your weight into it. This range of motion/windup generated more force than a simple spear thrust in a melee (which involves several muscles but not to the extent of putting all of your power into a single point of release). The difference between a spear throw and a spear thrust is that work can be applied to the spear in the horizontal direction after contact with a target with a spear thrust, yet work cannot be applied in the horizontal direction to a spear throw after release. This being said, the initial point of collision with a spear throw will generally have more force(energy) conserved than the point of collision of a spear thrust.
You might enjoy all of the suggestions throughout this thread:
Agreed. But TW wont be able to do this. They cant even launch an update properly.
That class itself should be balanced in that case. The Ash Throwing Spear is one perk and makes it sort of the only viable pick for that class, which throws the entire point of the perk system out the window. Of course if the throwing spear is nerfed, the class should be reworked to keep it viable.
And i'm saying that the Ash Throwing Spear has license to be stupidly powerful because if you die as a Brigand, you're better off leaving the server due to being forced to play the worst peasant unit in the game.
Sturgia needs an entire re-work as a faction if you ask me. I've always found it the weakest, though some people swear by it for skirmish and Captain. I can understand where you're coming from in that regard, but I don't think any of the balance should rely on overpowered, broken weapons to make up for the factions short-comings.
Remove captain mode from the game.
I'm loving all of them. Must be what the devs are cooking up for the next patch. I can't wait.
