Was your contribution important?hipp522 said:Playing patch 6, I don't get any loot from helping my faction siege a town. Bug? Intended feature? Hopefully a bug.
Leonion said:Was your contribution important?hipp522 said:Playing patch 6, I don't get any loot from helping my faction siege a town. Bug? Intended feature? Hopefully a bug.
If you were, say, a single person with a couple of companions who joined a 3k marshal army, then your loot_probability is roughly 0.
Although I remember fixing something like that in PNB, but probably didn't transfer that change to Perisno...
hipp522 said:Leonion said:Was your contribution important?hipp522 said:Playing patch 6, I don't get any loot from helping my faction siege a town. Bug? Intended feature? Hopefully a bug.
If you were, say, a single person with a couple of companions who joined a 3k marshal army, then your loot_probability is roughly 0.
Although I remember fixing something like that in PNB, but probably didn't transfer that change to Perisno...
Contribution only equates to my current party size versus how many allies are in the siege, and not something like how many enemies I kill? I can't remember the exact numbers but I had about 80 in my party versus 1000 allies.
Yes, except it's not "how many", but "how strong".hipp522 said:Contribution only equates to my current party size versus how many allies are in the siege, and not something like how many enemies I kill?
10Dago Wolfrider said:hipp522 said:Leonion said:Was your contribution important?hipp522 said:Playing patch 6, I don't get any loot from helping my faction siege a town. Bug? Intended feature? Hopefully a bug.
If you were, say, a single person with a couple of companions who joined a 3k marshal army, then your loot_probability is roughly 0.
Although I remember fixing something like that in PNB, but probably didn't transfer that change to Perisno...
Contribution only equates to my current party size versus how many allies are in the siege, and not something like how many enemies I kill? I can't remember the exact numbers but I had about 80 in my party versus 1000 allies.
What's the max looting skill of your party? Low looting + not too many units = no loot.
Leonion said:Yes, except it's not "how many", but "how strong".hipp522 said:Contribution only equates to my current party size versus how many allies are in the siege, and not something like how many enemies I kill?
Don't quote me on this but perhaps it's because some of their vassals are imprisoned in a castle/town~Midnight~ said:Alright, I've searched for an answer nearly everywhere and I have not found one yet. How do you actually "defeat" the Zann? I mean defeat in the sense of eliminating their faction from the game so on the faction screen it says "The Zann Dynasty has been defeated!" as shown here. I've been doing my full run of Perisno for a little over a week on and off now and I literally own the entire map. There are no Zann vassals or spearheads or hordes running around (I used CTRL T cheat to check) but they are still alive. They own literally nothing and have no vassal lord armies or spearheads or hordes anywhere on the map. They only have their little tiny Reinforcement armies or Raider armies that continuously respawn. Is this a bug or am I doing something wrong here? I did the quests for Shi Jin to stop the hordes from spawning.
Hi there! It's better to post and search at the Q&A thread, so you will get answers faster.samoja said:I noticed some prisoners simply won't join my army no matter what i do, i have maxed out charisma and leadership so it can't be that, is there any other factor that i am missing or are some prisoners just hardcoded to never join you (if that's the case that would suck for me since one of my main enjoyments is collecting as many different kinds of troops as i can), if so can that be changed in any way?
3. On rescuing enemies' prisoners:
If your relation with a soldier's faction plus 3x of your persuasion skill >= 40, you can recruit a soldier of any level.
If your relation with a soldier's faction plus 3x of your persuasion skill >= 0, you can recruit all of those whose level is smaller than yours+2x*persuasion. Others (whose level is higher) will join you partially, depending on the difference between the levels. The rest of "friendly" soldiers will go away.
You should get the remaining hostile "rescued" soldiers as prisoners.
Exception 1: if you're at war with faction X but also have its culture in your kingdom, you will get half of rescued troops from this faction as troops and another half as prisoners.
Exception 2: if a faction is defeated, relation requirement is passed automatically (Falcons are an exception), only level requirement remains.
4. You can only recruit prisoners from your own party if your level is bigger than theirs and you have positive relation with their faction.
willyflare said:Hi there! It's better to post and search at the Q&A thread, so you will get answers faster.samoja said:I noticed some prisoners simply won't join my army no matter what i do, i have maxed out charisma and leadership so it can't be that, is there any other factor that i am missing or are some prisoners just hardcoded to never join you (if that's the case that would suck for me since one of my main enjoyments is collecting as many different kinds of troops as i can), if so can that be changed in any way?
On the mod's main page, there's this under the useful stuff :
3. On rescuing enemies' prisoners:
If your relation with a soldier's faction plus 3x of your persuasion skill >= 40, you can recruit a soldier of any level.
If your relation with a soldier's faction plus 3x of your persuasion skill >= 0, you can recruit all of those whose level is smaller than yours+2x*persuasion. Others (whose level is higher) will join you partially, depending on the difference between the levels. The rest of "friendly" soldiers will go away.
You should get the remaining hostile "rescued" soldiers as prisoners.
Exception 1: if you're at war with faction X but also have its culture in your kingdom, you will get half of rescued troops from this faction as troops and another half as prisoners.
Exception 2: if a faction is defeated, relation requirement is passed automatically (Falcons are an exception), only level requirement remains.
4. You can only recruit prisoners from your own party if your level is bigger than theirs and you have positive relation with their faction.
What kind of prisoners are you exactly having trouble to recruit?
willyflare said:I assume hordes means Zann units?
If you are in peace with them, you can normally recruit their units as usual.
If you are in war with any faction, don't expect their faction units to join you.
Also the system is a game design, cannot be changed. It gave me no issues on collecting units, though. Maybe the devs can help you more on this.
samoja said:willyflare said:I assume hordes means Zann units?
If you are in peace with them, you can normally recruit their units as usual.
If you are in war with any faction, don't expect their faction units to join you.
Also the system is a game design, cannot be changed. It gave me no issues on collecting units, though. Maybe the devs can help you more on this.
No i meant spawns like Ankaras, Foreign invaders, Lymbardians and such, you know, outlaw bands. I am not saying i can't win with the system in place, but that's just not the way i like to play my game, i like to roleplay as a "redeemer", i like the idea of my character taking hostile NPCs and with his force of personality and charisma turning them over to the greater goal of restoring the empire. If i am right the system likely checks your relation with the faction against the predefined range and if your relation is outside of that range it bars you from recruiting those prisoners, it should be a relatively simple matter to change that range to include negative 100 reputation effectively deactivating the system, the issue is that Warband files consist of strings of numbers that are almost impossible to read since there is no context to them, so finding the right value to alter would be near impossible without knowing the source code.
willyflare said:samoja said:willyflare said:I assume hordes means Zann units?
If you are in peace with them, you can normally recruit their units as usual.
If you are in war with any faction, don't expect their faction units to join you.
Also the system is a game design, cannot be changed. It gave me no issues on collecting units, though. Maybe the devs can help you more on this.
No i meant spawns like Ankaras, Foreign invaders, Lymbardians and such, you know, outlaw bands. I am not saying i can't win with the system in place, but that's just not the way i like to play my game, i like to roleplay as a "redeemer", i like the idea of my character taking hostile NPCs and with his force of personality and charisma turning them over to the greater goal of restoring the empire. If i am right the system likely checks your relation with the faction against the predefined range and if your relation is outside of that range it bars you from recruiting those prisoners, it should be a relatively simple matter to change that range to include negative 100 reputation effectively deactivating the system, the issue is that Warband files consist of strings of numbers that are almost impossible to read since there is no context to them, so finding the right value to alter would be near impossible without knowing the source code.
Ahh then you are doing exactly the same thing as me. I'm playing as a king of the outlaw factions, where I'm friendly with them and can recruit any of those in prisoner lists.
It took a long time in the beginning, running around helping them, while bribing lords to ignore my acts against their factions. Impossible to do when you already have a kingdom though. But I got the added bonus that my caravans are not disturbed by any bandits.
If you don't mind doing some work, you can edit the savegame instead, and change your relationship level with the factions that you are interested in to positive. Beware of corruption that can happen and make a backup.