“Half of seeming clever is keeping your mouth shut at the right times.”๖Kern said:What about stopping this pointless discussion, which is not even on topic? I love Forum dramas, but it makes me feel bad.
Surkan said:“Half of seeming clever is keeping your mouth shut at the right times.”๖Kern said:What about stopping this pointless discussion, which is not even on topic? I love Forum dramas, but it makes me feel bad.
Zoyka has a point though...๖Kern said:Surkan said:“Half of seeming clever is keeping your mouth shut at the right times.”๖Kern said:What about stopping this pointless discussion, which is not even on topic? I love Forum dramas, but it makes me feel bad.
What do you think Surkan.. Was this the right time? We could argue
In a nutshell, Zoyka is trying to get DarkLight banned from the tourney and "baits" anyone coming around to argue. Does this have a point?
Decision has been made tho.. I doubt that someone will be able to convince Arni now.Motthe said:Zoyka has a point though...
ROFL said:After spending the entire night looking into the evidence presented, talking with some of the best duelists in the game and with players who actually understand how Mount&Blade: Warband functions are working, as well as downloading and testing some autoblocks myself, I firmly came into the conclusion that DarkLight is clearly clean from any cheating and innocent of any accusation that has been presented against him.
Motthe said:Zoyka has a point though...๖Kern said:Surkan said:“Half of seeming clever is keeping your mouth shut at the right times.”๖Kern said:What about stopping this pointless discussion, which is not even on topic? I love Forum dramas, but it makes me feel bad.
What do you think Surkan.. Was this the right time? We could argue
In a nutshell, Zoyka is trying to get DarkLight banned from the tourney and "baits" anyone coming around to argue. Does this have a point?
Watly said:Motthe said:Zoyka has a point though...๖Kern said:Surkan said:“Half of seeming clever is keeping your mouth shut at the right times.”๖Kern said:What about stopping this pointless discussion, which is not even on topic? I love Forum dramas, but it makes me feel bad.
What do you think Surkan.. Was this the right time? We could argue
In a nutshell, Zoyka is trying to get DarkLight banned from the tourney and "baits" anyone coming around to argue. Does this have a point?
Nah, he doesn't.
- Zoyka claims DarkLight should be shamed for cheating, even though the players he cheated against and the admins of the server on which he cheated do not care. If the players that got affected by DarkLight cheating do not care, why should we care?
- Zoyka claims it is weird that we do not mind a "known auto blocker" to host the "main duel tournament." The problem with this reasoning is 1) DarkLight isn't a known auto blocker as shown in the previous statement 2) it isn't the "main duel tournament", it is DarkLight's duel tournament.
Greedalicious said:We should all care that a cheater is allowed to play. Everyone is in an uproar that we cant spot cheaters, and when they actually are found we do nothing about it. Whats the point in playing fair if cheaters dont get punished.
Watly said:Nah, he doesn't.
- Zoyka claims DarkLight should be shamed for cheating, even though the players he cheated against and the admins of the server on which he cheated do not care. If the players that got affected by DarkLight cheating do not care, why should we care?
- Zoyka claims it is weird that we do not mind a "known auto blocker" to host the "main duel tournament." The problem with this reasoning is 1) DarkLight isn't a known auto blocker as shown in the previous statement 2) it isn't the "main duel tournament", it is DarkLight's duel tournament.
Gibby Jr said:Using autoblock on Ludus is very different to using it in a tournament. Darklight has not used it for a long time since I warned him, as far as I know, and certainly he hasn't been using it in tournaments. Even in this instance it's not possible to tell either way. There is no justification to punish Darklight based on what has been presented so far.
Zoyka said:It is "very different' only because you want it to be. Only because you prove yet again to be two-faced hypocrit. If it was me instead of darklight, it wouldnt be "very different". If a player gets caught cheating in any game, its always presumable that he uses cheats on regular basis. In every other game or in real life, that player or sportsman caught cheating even once would be banned and ashamed by community. Your attempts to defend him are just ridiculous.
Gibby Jr said:I know the idea of duel tournaments is very strange to you, since you never enter them
Efe Karacar said:You have no proof he is cheating, Zoyka, which closes the case. Stop playing to politics. There are many people who can vouch for Dark's innocence as well.
Zoyka said:Are you really that ignorant or just plain stupid? Ok, lets pretend you really are plain stupid. I will explain it very simple for you. He was "caught" by them. Are you really trying to imply that he ONLY used it the times when he was caught against these 2? Never in any other duels, never on ig_bg, never in any scrims or matches? Just "few" MULTIPLE times he was caught by multiple admins on ludus. Yeah, sure. If Gibby and BD don't care that he used cheats on their server, it doesn't mean that others shouldnt. He played ft7 against me and lost even with cheats. I care. It is just plain logic to assume that he didnt "only" use cheats when he was caught, he always used it, but was caught just these times. It is so rare to actually catch cheaters, it happened now, but everyone just tries to ignore it. Nice.Watly said:
Watly said:If he's cheated against you or someone else, feel free to share it with us (along with some proof). I personally find it a very bad idea to punish people for things of which it is not known whether they've actually done it or not.
AnchorTheMean said:I kinda agree with Zoyka tbh. If DarkLight was suspected of autoblocking in an official match in a normal tourney, and with his supposed history of using it on Ludus, he'd be banned from the tourney 100%.
Zoyka said:I will not bother watching your video or make guesses if he uses cheats now or doesnt, simply because it should not matter. He got caught cheating just recently on multiple occasions. When players in CS GO get caught cheating, they are banned, when sportsmen get caught using roids, they get banned, when people do crimes in real life they are being punished,
Zoyka said:Your judgement is irreleveant, you proved your incomptency as an admin in WPL
Rayden_ said:it's been smooth and best tournament so far.
Watly said:So if I post something like "Arni = Menethil" on nc suggestions, I can get Arni banned from NC????