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Be wary of using that guy's art as evidence of anything because he usually just makes stuff up. Not saying that this one in particular is wrong, but he isn't a historian and his priority is making soldiers look le epic awesome rather than based on any actual sources.

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Be wary of using that guy's art as evidence of anything because he usually just makes stuff up. Not saying that this one in particular is wrong, but he isn't a historian and his priority is making soldiers look le epic awesome rather than based on any actual sources.

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Yeah, But I was kinda just trying to prove a point.

Anyway, this Mod makes some really nice ones for the Middle-Easterns:

But yeah, I really have a huge problem with the current Aserai ones. They look so cartoonish in my opinion. And I don't like the idea of having the scarf as part of the shoulders slot instead of the helmet, since it's for that. But again, I'm not an expert.
 
"Saracen" is an extremely broad (and basically useless) term and includes practically half the mediterranean and huge chunks of asia. The idea that none of them would use kettle helmets is kind of ridiculous.

These images are sourced from archaeology and contemporary depictions of the equipment soldiers would have used. They aren't always completely accurate but until you provide evidence that they're wrong (rather than just a massively generalising hunch), Im inclined to believe them.
yes i am trying to simply them

they should add more 'soft' horse armor, especially for the aserai. the current aserai horse armor is way too 'futuristic' for the late 11th century. i did a thread recently on this topic:

well since hes an andalusian its probably possible for him to get a kettle helmet but im not sure for other sultanates, emirates, shahdoms in the middle east. also that greek artist draws lots of innacurate stuff
 
Although the guy always exaggerates the models, he is not misguided. This type of helmet is, after all, a variant of chapel de fer-capellinas / kettle hat - war hat; very much used by Andalusian troops (So...It is plausible that a "Saracen" would use this type of helmet...). You can take a look at the Cantigas de Santa María manuscripts of which I am very sure that @Al_Mansur was inspired for his magnificent models.

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"Saracen" is an extremely broad (and basically useless) term and includes practically half the mediterranean and huge chunks of asia. The idea that none of them would use kettle helmets is kind of ridiculous.

These images are sourced from archaeology and contemporary depictions of the equipment soldiers would have used. They aren't always completely accurate but until you provide evidence that they're wrong (rather than just a massively generalising hunch), Im inclined to believe them.

the certain type of helmet that the horseman (with the blue caparison) is wearing is a helmet with a mask commonly being used by cuman - kipchaks nomads (and probably other nomads like the volga bulgars or the earlier khazars) that lived around the volga river area and the pontic steppe, this certain type of war mask helmet have been found in lipovets, kovali mostly ( or all i think ) founded in nomadic burials, they were also probably worn by the khans or rich warriors or for heavy cavalry uses.

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Although the guy always exaggerates the models, he is not misguided. This type of helmet is, after all, a variant of chapel de fer-capellinas / kettle hat - war hat; very much used by Andalusian troops (So...It is plausible that a "Saracen" would use this type of helmet...). You can take a look at the Cantigas de Santa María manuscripts of which I am very sure that @Al_Mansur was inspired for his magnificent models.

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yes that one is more correct, the one in the art looks like an european style kettle helm

Although the guy always exaggerates the models, he is not misguided. This type of helmet is, after all, a variant of chapel de fer-capellinas / kettle hat - war hat; very much used by Andalusian troops (So...It is plausible that a "Saracen" would use this type of helmet...). You can take a look at the Cantigas de Santa María manuscripts of which I am very sure that @Al_Mansur was inspired for his magnificent models.

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yes that one is more correct, the one in the art looks like an european style kettle helm, but we (or i) dont have evidence for the use of kettle helmets to be worn in the middle east

the outermer knight isnt a middle easterner
 
they should add more 'soft' horse armor, especially for the aserai. the current aserai horse armor is way too 'futuristic' for the late 11th century. i did a thread recently on this topic:

I feel like the current Aserai horse armor looks like from the 15th century or something, so I agree. Also, I think the faction colors in MP ruins the feeling for Aserai and other factions. I wish only the icons are colored, not the clothes/armor.
 
the certain type of helmet that the horseman (with the blue caparison) is wearing is a helmet with a mask commonly being used by cuman - kipchaks nomads (and probably other nomads like the volga bulgars or the earlier khazars) that lived around the volga river area and the pontic steppe, this certain type of war mask helmet have been found in lipovets, kovali mostly ( or all i think ) founded in nomadic burials, they were also probably worn by the khans or rich warriors or for heavy cavalry uses.

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yes that one is more correct, the one in the art looks like an european style kettle helm


yes that one is more correct, the one in the art looks like an european style kettle helm, but we (or i) dont have evidence for the use of kettle helmets to be worn in the middle east


the outermer knight isnt a middle easterner
Oh yeah, my bad. He's a crusader.
This would be quite fun to have for Ghilman, though. I love the helmet.
This, too.
 

the man on top is cool but the one below is wearing a helmet that of the 14th century and up. it would be cool if the aserai was more islamic persian tbh or maybe even pre islamic persian!
 
the man on top is cool but the one below is wearing a helmet that of the 14th century and up. it would be cool if the aserai was more islamic persian tbh or maybe even pre islamic persian!
Agreed for Islamic Persian, but it's also lovely to see Arabs and Berbers. As for pre-Islamic Persians, I'd like to have late Sassanid armors if so.
 
the man on top is cool but the one below is wearing a helmet that of the 14th century and up. it would be cool if the aserai was more islamic persian tbh or maybe even pre islamic persian!

the aserai are mostly famtimid and berber, but i wouldn't minf seeing a new (pre-islamic) iranian faction. i mean battanians are not period accurate either.
 
Thank you! Yeah Bannerlord cover gave me the idea (which has already been evoked by other people in this thread) for this "Norman" Spoleto helmet (actually Italian and German but whatever). I thought the knee long scale cuirass would give too much of an Imperial/Byzantine vibe, so I went for this little torso cuirass, which by the way is in line with vanilla coat of plates regarding the area protected.
Still have to tweak the hauberk, add a sword belt and gilded spurs:
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This is so uncannily close that I'm sure ADamnSexyName saw this. Seriously, go see his stuff for yourself.
 
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Actually there is no need to look too far. these are TW's own designs and aesthetically compatible armor sets. I took these few examples from tw's posted videos.

Here are some units with their sergeants
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Palatine Archers

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Legionary

This could be a nice spear unit for battania
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Also, I would love to see the huskarl unit in the campaign.

Congratulations on other posts, really great visuals but it may take us a long time to see them in the game. My suggestion TW can please us in the short term with previous designs.

Part 2

1. I think the helmet here fits the empire very well
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But then they changed color and now they look very bad compared to here (a dirty look) and a few more helmets shared the same fate. The helmets in question -high quality ones- can revert to the shiny appearance as before, the lower quality ones remain the same.

2. Slavic culture seems very dominant in Sturgia. I think it wouldn't be bad to slightly increase this in favor of viking. for example, how about a sturgian archer like this?
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3. I would like to see more of these types of helmets at Kuzait. I think it will be a better reflection of the culture. For example horse archers can wear these

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Finally TW's wallpapers. these armor sets look great.
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Some more concept designs. Author: Even Amundsen (https://www.artstation.com/mischeviouslittleelf)
Some examples:

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Ahhh, Assassins Creed Valhalla. Further pushing misconceptions of the dynamic and relations between the Anglo-Saxons and their Briton neighbours and subjects even more out of whack. I was excited to see what they'd do with the Britons but they did them sooo dirty... Skyrim bandit leather armour, animal skulls, and spooky Pagan iconography for the nominally Catholic Britons. They even announced a pagan horror themed Irish DLC for 9th century very Catholic Ireland.

On a positive note - The new armour for the Battanians the Bannerlord team have been making are lovely! @alieser I salute you and the lads, great stuff.

The new male and female highland tunics/dresses are so much better the Highland Chainmail and Highland Mail shirt are perfect and the new reinforced Fian Mail looks beautiful (And the slight Bronze-Age Anachronism really well done). Knocked it out the park and it's so much better a representation and the unit tree looks much better than before with a minimum of tatty looking, poorly stitched clothing which is nice to see! (Tailoring really wasn't that bad even then ahaha).
 
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