Vorstadtkid said:such deduction skills.Nord Champion said:So its a good idea for them to be shooting at each other?
Kobrag said:I accidentally posted this in the Pakistan thread. >.>
EU ministers have agreed to have Pro-Russian Ukrainian assets frozen and cancel visas.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-26280710
By your recent comments it sounds more like you have less interest in remaining non-bias and more interest in defending the government's actions. Is that so? If so, why is the primary reason for so?ColonicAcid said:Friendly reminder that this conflict isn't black and white.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDTgsVeNSsI
Got to admit he was reasonable at the beginning. But then he started saying "Look! There's fascism all over Europe! There's Svastika's everywhere! Nazi's, nazis!". WTF? Brainwashed fool.ColonicAcid said:Friendly reminder that this conflict isn't black and white.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDTgsVeNSsI
Dodes said:By your recent comments it sounds more like you have less interest in remaining non-bias and more interest in defending the government's actions. Is that so? If so, why is the primary reason for so?ColonicAcid said:Friendly reminder that this conflict isn't black and white.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDTgsVeNSsI
EDIT: Also, has VICE's 'Ukraine Burning' been linked here yet? A bit outdated now, but a high quality and professional report.
Bluehawk said:I remember seeing a shield with 14/88 written around a Celtic cross in January. "Right Sector" perhaps?
Here it is:
Photograph: Sergei Supinsky/AFP/Getty Images
trueten said:You can see those signs on every football match. Also, 14/88 is mainly racist signs. Ukraine practically has no immigrants at all, so the guy who has this symbol doesn't even know what they mean. Another teenager.
Yes, I do sound like biased, which I am, but I'm sick with this Nazi thingie I hear here and there. Every man should know that each phenomenon has its own basis. Nazis formed as partially on hatred to jews, which Germany had, and humiliation of the loss in WWI. Ku-kluks-klan - on hatred to afro-americans, which US had and has a lot. Neo-nazis - because of the amount of immigrants. So, to form this or that movement there should be a reason, some trend or threat, or a problem that concerns a lot of people.
Talking of Nazis or Neo-Nazis in Ukraine is the same thing as to state that we have whide-spread and popular organizations that are based on hatred towards, for example, elefants. You know why we do not have such organizations? Because we do not have elefants. We do not have elefants, nor gross amount of jews, nor black people, immigrants and etc. At least non of those really threatens somehow to anyone. But what really threatens to every single one of us is corruption and criminals in the government. Do we have such movements against those factors? I think 100 protesters shot only this day would be a full answer.
Bluehawk said:Heh, are the 14 Words even still 14 when they're translated into Ukrainian?
Btw, I remember when one deputy was in US one journalist asked him "Why do you still have a poster "Kill the Jews!" on Maidan?". I would really like to know where he got such info. I've heard a lot of claims that Maidan is full of anti-semitism. From russian and governmental medias of course. And I also read a lot of posts of our well-known Jews that wrote dozens of articles about why they are on Maidan, how anti-semitic claims are ridiculous and also info about jews, that served in Israeli army that are now fighting on Maidan side by side with 'neo-nazi-antisemitic-extrimists-armed with gunfire wooden sticks' that throw granades and tanks at defenseless police. There even was a moment when local Kievan sinagoge asked Maidan self-defense troops to protect it from hired thugs. Hell, even Yatsenyuk and Klitschko are half-jews.Bluehawk said:You need only need a handful of Jews in important positions to foster conspiracy theories.
Google Translate puts it at 10 Ukrainian words, but of course Google Translate's grammar is never perfect. Even still, I doubt that unless you phrase it in some stilted way it'd be 14.Bluehawk said:Heh, are the 14 Words even still 14 when they're translated into Ukrainian?
Does this picture warrant a joke?trueten said:Finally, Medieval is back: