Ukraine Today

[nikosierra125]

http://edition.cnn.com/video/data/2.0/video/bestoftv/2014/02/20/vo-ukraine-drone-footage.ruptly.html

Just saw this, wow.

 

[Jhessail]

No, if they're armed they're a threat and Russia won't sit idly by if we send armed personnel into this.
I'm hoping Ukraine's army will send in their medics though. What's happened to the armed forces in western Ukraine?

Russia is pretty isolationist. I can't imagine them taking a forceful stand.

You are absolutely, with 100% certainty, completely wrong. In fact, you're so wrong that it's hilarious.

 

[Weaver]

Yanukovich has agreed to roll back to old version of Constitution and to hold early elections.
Source in Ukrainian: http://www.pravda.com.ua/news/2014/02/21/7015469/
Victory?

 

[Jhessail]

Victory indeed. If he goes through with it, and Russia remains passive.

 

[Trueten]

No. He's an ******* that broke his' promises for a dozen times. Besides, re-elections in December? SO 10 nonths he will be still as president? How can he only imagine to move through city without several battalions of armed Berkut and tanks? Resignement, that's all we need. He simply wants the Maidan to disappear by itself and then...

The way out is simple, to be honest. The Parliament should change the constitution (legit) to incrase its power. Elects a new Prime-Minister (legit) and forms a new government (legit). Declares Yanukovich an ******* (legit) and arrests him (or shoots him, if he tries to run away to Russia). In this case no nagotiations even needed with him.

 

[Weaver]

Aye, opposition and protesters demand Yanukovich's unconditional and immediate resignation. There is no guarantee an agreement will be reached soon.
Undisputably good news though is that they are pulling berkut out right now. Can you confirm this, trueten?

 

[Trueten]

Undisputably good news though is that they are pulling berkut out right now. Can you confirm this, trueten?

Not so sure. At least the Interior Forces (ВВэшники) are leaving:

Still, earlier this morning the battalion of armed airborn troops from Poltava (info confirmed) arrived.

So, he changes police to army? God knows. But, in any case Yanuchesku will never beat this guys:

Spoiler

http://coub.com/view/qz3e

 

[Kobrag]

Couldn't you solve this more easily if you give that bastard the means to emigrate and then form a new legitimate government?
He will hardly surrender as president if hew feels his livelihood and/or life is endangered.

 

[Wellenbrecher]

So, he changes police to army? God knows. But, in any case Yanuchesku will never beat this guys:

Spoiler

http://coub.com/view/qz3e

I thought Berkut were the guys in the grey uniforms and that the black ones are just regular police. Huh.

 

[Nord Champion]

No, if they're armed they're a threat and Russia won't sit idly by if we send armed personnel into this.
I'm hoping Ukraine's army will send in their medics though. What's happened to the armed forces in western Ukraine?

Russia is pretty isolationist. I can't imagine them taking a forceful stand.

Russia is about as isolationist as the US is, which means they aren't at all. Russia controls their media, so its not well known.

 

[Bluehawk]

I thought Berkut were the guys in the grey uniforms and that the black ones are just regular police. Huh.

Correct. The clip is mislabeled. Look for the armpatch.

MVS Internal Forces

Although there are some Berkut operating in black.

Spoiler

 

[Trueten]

Hm, confusing. The Parliament has voted to change the constitution - Ukraine now is Parliament-Presidential Republic. Yanukovich has lost his super-presidential powers. But he still controlls the army (the question about police is argueble so far).

The presidential re-elections will be held in December. This means that Maidan will be disbanded. If Arbuzov will be the new prime-minister - we're screwed.
Or - Tymoshenko will be released and she becomes a Prime-Minister. At least she has balls and they're very hard (which I can't say about current 3 opposition 'leaders').

 

[Untitled.]

So, he changes police to army? God knows. But, in any case Yanuchesku will never beat this guys:

Spoiler

http://coub.com/view/qz3e

Those guys in the Skyrim thread who disagreed with the idea of dual wielding... well, **** them. >;D

 

[Anthropoid]

Couldn't you solve this more easily if you give that bastard the means to emigrate and then form a new legitimate government?
He will hardly surrender as president if hew feels his livelihood and/or life is endangered.

Thought I read that he already fled the country.

 

[Trueten]

Mixed feelings. Ukranian girls won a Golden medal on Olympic games dis' day due to their superior sniper abilities...

 

[romandude]

No, if they're armed they're a threat and Russia won't sit idly by if we send armed personnel into this.
I'm hoping Ukraine's army will send in their medics though. What's happened to the armed forces in western Ukraine?

Russia is pretty isolationist. I can't imagine them taking a forceful stand.

Russia is about as isolationist as the US is, which means they aren't at all. Russia controls their media, so its not well known.

How many wars have the Russians been involved in lately? How much trade is Russia involved in?

Russia is pretty isolationist for major power, and its highly unlikely for them to take any direct action based on their recent history.

 

[Wellenbrecher]

Two ongoing insurgencies.
In the last twenty years it was eleven in total.

 

[Anarion]

They're also huge on trade, and don't hesitate to use it as a political tool.

 

[Nord Champion]

No, if they're armed they're a threat and Russia won't sit idly by if we send armed personnel into this.
I'm hoping Ukraine's army will send in their medics though. What's happened to the armed forces in western Ukraine?

Russia is pretty isolationist. I can't imagine them taking a forceful stand.

Russia is about as isolationist as the US is, which means they aren't at all. Russia controls their media, so its not well known.

How many wars have the Russians been involved in lately? How much trade is Russia involved in?

Russia is pretty isolationist for major power, and its highly unlikely for them to take any direct action based on their recent history.

Oh, I dunno, invading Georgia in 2008, the Cenchen War in the late 1990s and into the 2000s, having  "Peacekeeping" forces in most of the ex-Soviet States. Just to name a few. They have their hands in basically every ex-Soviet state, its hard to miss. Trade with ex-Soviet states, I imagine, is pretty extensive as well.

They're not isolationist, that's what they want you to think.

Including what they said above.

 

[Nahkuri]

How many wars have the Russians been involved in lately? How much trade is Russia involved in?

Russia is pretty isolationist for major power, and its highly unlikely for them to take any direct action based on their recent history.

So it's the amount of wars that now determine whether a nation is isolationist or not?