The NEW Plate Armor!

[Sidus Preclarum]

This one also look to be a later period plate armor,

Ca. 1375. Which is about what the armour in the game is trying to portray, but then again, I could be wrong, so strangely it tries to portray it...
The M&B armour model I posted earlier is an even earlier model.

The in game one I think is about late or end of 13th century, or very early 14th,

Impossible. Since there was no such thing then.
ESPECIALLY NOT with a one piece breastplate.
The one model I posted is called "transitionnal armour" for a reason.

if you look at it you see if got about no actual articulation (only an elbow cover,

The point is, he won't be able to flex that elbow, since some genius armourer apparently thought it a clever idea to put a protective plate on the INSIDE of the articulation.
Great, he won't be stabbed here. At the expense of not being able to stab anyone either.

And thank for the picture andalusian, seem more advantaced then in game one and seem to be the step or two just before the one sidus posted.

Exact same period.

 

[iniudan]

Exact same period.

You know there is still progress in a period ? Your armor got much more developed articulation then one he posted.

 

[Sidus Preclarum]

Exact same period.

You know there is still progress in a period ? Your armor got much more developed articulation then one he posted.

Hasn't.
And the previous one had an even less complex one.
Point is, anyway, unlike the one in the warband model, they *are* fuctionnal.

Besides, judging from the fact the chest piece and the back pieces of the warband armour are of a single plate, the armour *is* supposed to be "more developped" than all 3 armours posted. Or at least "as developped" as the one on top of this page.
Fact is, once again, the plate armour, which presence in the game I don't really understand to start with, ressembles little anything historical. But at least the old one didn't make the character look like the bloody tin man out of Wizard of Oz...

 

[iniudan]

The point is, he won't be able to flex that elbow, since some genius armourer apparently thought it a clever idea to put a protective plate on the INSIDE of the articulation.
Great, he won't be stabbed here. At the expense of not being able to stab anyone either.

Picture very dark I don't seem to see it inside the articulation, but you may be right on that part, will have to look at one in game myself to see.

 

[iniudan]

Exact same period.

You know there is still progress in a period ? Your armor got much more developed articulation then one he posted.

Hasn't.
And the previous one had an even less complex one.
Point is, anyway, unlike the one in the warband model, they *are* fuctionnal.

Besides, judging from the fact the chest piece and the back pieces of the warband armour are of a single plate, the armour *is* supposed to be "more developped" than all 3 armours posted. Or at least "as developped" as the one on top of this page.

Then give other picture please, for articulation plating seem more developed from front, especially at elbow level. Also your has a plated skirt, the other we cannot be sure since we only see the tabard.

 

[Andalusian_Guard]

To Clear all this up...

Knight 1300-1400

 

[scythe111]

I think it looks absolutely silly. Then again, the plate in vanilla looked absolutely silly.

Maybe plate just looks silly? 

 

[iniudan]

To Clear all this up...

Knight 1300-1400

Thank you, Andalusian, one seem to be a second one arm plating, with first one boot. Has for the chest piece cannot say for all wear tabard. But plate chest piece is the easier piece to make after bracer.


Edit, after better look, seem to be first one arm, but second one bracer, but without all the articulation cover, except the elbow one.

 

[iniudan]

I think it looks absolutely silly. Then again, the plate in vanilla looked absolutely silly.

Maybe plate just looks silly? 

They sure does, one of the main reason to wear a tabard over it, after been recognizable on the battlefield. =p

 

[Andalusian_Guard]

I think it looks absolutely silly. Then again, the plate in vanilla looked absolutely silly.

Maybe plate just looks silly? 

They sure does, one of the main reason to wear a tabard over it, after been recognizable on the battlefield. =p

mostly so other knights would know you were a noble and not to kill you on the spot because they could get ransom money. At Agincourt one English knight forgot his tabard and ended up getting his brains splattered.

As for the elbows, they dont need to attach to the vambraces or biceps, certain armor of the time could also be attached by tie points with leather cords.

 

[iniudan]

I think it looks absolutely silly. Then again, the plate in vanilla looked absolutely silly.

Maybe plate just looks silly? 

They sure does, one of the main reason to wear a tabard over it, after been recognizable on the battlefield. =p

mostly so other knights would know you were a noble and not to kill you on the spot because they could get ransom money. At Agincourt one English knight forgot his tabard and ended up getting his brains splattered.

As for the elbows, they dont need to attach to the vambraces or biceps, certain armor of the time could also be attached by tie points with leather cords.

Not an armor elbow specialist. =)

But just want to thank again for the picture, I think they show it was possible has 12th armor for the top most elite (remember other then the special sword sister (would actually give them an other armor if it was me), only king Harlaus wear a plate armor in all Calradia, outside the player, it not like you see knight going around with one)

 

[Andalusian_Guard]

Well for those interested here are your two plate powerhouses of the 15th century

Milanese from Italy

Gothic from Germany

You would be nearly impossible to kill in these things at the time and your enemies best bet would be to get you through the visor or use a blunt weapon to crush it into you. Wearing this was the closest you could ever get to god mode in warfare.

 

[Elric_de_Melnibone]

Wearing this was the closest you could ever get to god mode in warfare.

One word:

Crossbows.
And yes, they were condemned by the Pope. For a reason.

 

[Andalusian_Guard]

Wearing this was the closest you could ever get to god mode in warfare.

One word:

Crossbows.
And yes, they were condemned by the Pope. For a reason.

Even with crossbows they would have  to be at a fairly unconfortable range to penetrate, those curves and grooves in the armor are not just there for looks. Not to mention the knight wouldnt be standing still offering himself an easy target.

 

[iniudan]

Well for those interested here are your two plate powerhouses of the 15th century

Milanese from Italy

Gothic from Germany

You would be nearly impossible to kill in these things at the time and your enemies best bet would be to get you through the visor or use a blunt weapon to crush it into you. Wearing this was the closest you could ever get to god mode in warfare.

Never saw that first Italian model before, but those were mostly parade, tournament armor. Rare are those that actually wore one to battle.

For the battle field elite at those time looked more like this:

 

[Andalusian_Guard]

Never saw that first Italian model before, but those were mostly parade, tournament armor. Rare are those that actually wore one to battle.

No they were always used in battle

 

[iniudan]

Never saw that first Italian model before, but those were mostly parade, tournament armor. Rare are those that actually wore one to battle.

No they were always used in battle

Edited post above in included picture of what was the battlefield field elite of the 15th-16th century. =)

In other word mercenary group like the Swiss Guard and the Landsknecht. =)


Edit: Also I said use them, not wear them to battle and look pretty while commanding unit. =p

 

[Harathor]

LOVES IT

 

[Andalusian_Guard]

Never saw that first Italian model before, but those were mostly parade, tournament armor. Rare are those that actually wore one to battle.

No they were always used in battle

Edited post above in included picture of what was the battlefield field elite of the 15th-16th century. =)

Actually those are early to late 17th century outfits musketeers and halberdiers long after plate armor had gone out of style due to the matchlock.

 

[iniudan]

Never saw that first Italian model before, but those were mostly parade, tournament armor. Rare are those that actually wore one to battle.

No they were always used in battle

Edited post above in included picture of what was the battlefield field elite of the 15th-16th century. =)

Actually those are late 16th century outfits musketeers and halberdiers long after plate armor had gone out of style due to the matchlock.

Was more speaking of equipment next to him. And don't forget the gothic plate you showed is late 15th, since those were under emperor Maximilian, which the Italian used has a model for the 16th century Maximilian full plate.

Just wanted to show people were then mostly wearing half plate were more reliant on polearm formation, with some fire support (sorry but hard to find a picture with era firearm and the polearm and armor next to it =p)


True that the uniform part is only gala stuff, but the armor and weapon is still 15th-16th century, just used it for everyone know that the picture is a Swiss guard, who are the only mercenary force left of the era.