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[Varalir]

 

[Age of Empires ¶ Densetsu]

The reason why he's utilising an argumentum ad hominem is because you are dumb.

 

[Kentucky 『 ＨＥＩＧＵＩ 』 James]

Why do you always get your knickers in a twist when someone is talking about this stuff? 

Because you show up making grandiose sweeping claims with this indignant reactionary enthusiasm, despite having next to no background knowledge. It makes it kind of obvious that you don't really care about UK politics at all. You don't even know much about Tommy Robinson's history outside what you read in whatever article or video made you want to rant on Taleworlds.

"Free Speech" doesn't mean you get to say whatever you want. It's actually quite a low-priority concept in law which gets superceded by something as simple as a Non-Disclosure Agreement or confidentiality clause in a job description. If you came to this country and screamed "ISLAM SUCKS!!!" the police wouldn't bat an eyelid. Tommy Robinson doesn't go to jail for his opinions, but because he's essentially a soft terrorist. He deliberately goes out to cause trouble, flaunts the law, and rides the line like a *****, and has done so for years, knowing that he can just turn around and say "SEEE??? NANNY STATE" the moment he gets prosecuted. His mirror-matched islamist opponents are the exact same.

Someday you'll go too far, Jacob. And then I'll let my roommate log into my account and you'll have to have arguments with him.

Spoiler

 

[Varalir]

Please quote me my grandiose claims. I'm having trouble finding what you're overreacting to.

I don't mean free-speech in the law sense in Britain.
And you do get in trouble with the law for saying "ISLAM SUCKS" in a public place or the internet.

And I agree Tommy Robinson is a git. I just find it silly to use something like this to make him a possible martyr to nationalists in the UK.
Because though I see this as something dumb, they see this arrest as ridiculous. True or not.

Edit: You can get in trouble with the law for saying "ISLAM SUCKS"..

 

[Calradianın bilgesi]

media restriction on child rape case ->orwellian
some guy gets arrested for reasons we don't know-> UK is a tyranny???

 

[Varalir]

Media restriction overall - Orwellian in nature.

Some guy getting arrested for what I thought was expressing himself in front of a courthouse about muslim gang - Tyranny.

Wow I really do sound dumb when you misquote and misrepresent me.

 

[Calradianın bilgesi]

the point is you come up with two sentences about an incident noone knows about, do not provide any sources, then use the strongest words on authoritarianism to condemn that thing god knows what it is. if you're going to make big claims, both the incident and your evidence should be proportionate to size of your claims. now all we can do is to have 100% confidence in your testimony and believe that the UK is actually tyranny with Orwellian restrictions on freedom of speech.

 

[Kentucky 『 ＨＥＩＧＵＩ 』 James]

GRONSIIR MEGAROAST POST​

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Please quote me my grandiose claims. Those are pretty flimsy attempts at an excuse for the UK justice system. Is the UK tyrannical? Gender wage gap, patriarchy, rape culture etc. Lots of misconception and conjecture when it comes to those things examined solely through a feminist lens. Yeah, Britains laws regarding speech is ridiculous. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/2018/01/22/oxford-university-gives-women-time-pass-exams/amp/?__twitter_impression=true If this is true then Oxford is officially a joke. BONUS CONTENT: I have an idea why pedophiles are so "frequently" pious christians. It's because it offers absolution and forgiveness. I don't think celibacy has anything to do with it. So even though they're cowards and depressed degenerates they can at least believe they'll go to heaven when they die or what ever. Yeah you're right, damn. I just made it enough that they have a very large percentage of women in the workforce and that it was affecting their child-having. That's kind of feminist right?

I don't mean free-speech in the law sense in Britain. Then what the bloody hell do you mean? You split hairs on your dumbass, ultra-specific, impenetrable arguments all the time. Here's a collection. (Follow links to see replies where people quote exactly where you said the thing you claim not to have said) What exactly did I assume in your opinion? Edit: And how is my assumption ridiculous? Add that as well. Didn't say the UK is Orwellian, the thought of limiting information and limiting free speech in any way is Orwellian in nature. Oh, pray tell, where in this world is socialism actually practiced? Go on, do enlighten us. I won't, why should I? I'm laughing at your burning desire to be a pseudo-intellectual know-it-all in every situation you can  I love how this is your cop out Excuse me idiot, what exactly am I copping out of?  My bad. Excuse me Epicrules, you **** idiot. What am I trying to cop out of? I didn't say any of those countries were socialist.

Wow I really do sound dumb when you misquote and misrepresent me. What you don't seem to get is that even though we sometimes generalise your arguments, your stance remains completely intact even when somebody like Amontadillo paraphrases what you say. See the previous column for evidence of this happening multiple times. If I say "I think Stalin was a good politician" and somebody replies, "You communist crackhead!", I don't get to say "Actually I was only talking about Stalin in particular" because Person B has made an absolutely valid assumption about my political alignment. You don't know what Free Speech means, you don't know what Orwellian means, you don't know what Socialism is, you don't know what Feminism is, you don't know what an ad hominem is and you probably haven't even left the isles of inbreeding in your life, so don't be surprised when people just dismiss your arguments when you say something without any background knowledge for the 40th time.​

 

[Antonis]

I confess I know little of the guy in question, but from what I've read on the Internetz, he seems pretty far-right and qu9ite an absolute person, to put it mildly. So, it's a bit funny to complain about authoritarianism on behalf of an authoritarian.

Also, Jacob, WHAT THE FUUUUUUUUUCK? I think that deserves a medal.

 

[Adorno]

*snip*

 

[Antoine de Saint-Exupéry]

I should note here the is because [abbr=there's another paraphrased argument for you to complain "i didn't say that about"]"you ad hominem'd me "[/abbr] is one of the laziest copouts there is. Moreso when there was no ad hominem.

Aside from that, Jacob nailed it. So much of your posting of this type is such lazy generalised ignorant crap that frankly I don't even understand what you're hoping to achieve because it makes no ****ing sense.

 

[Varalir]

That's something from a long time ago. Very petty. I'm done here.

 

[Evelyn]

Promise?

 

[Kentucky 『 ＨＥＩＧＵＩ 』 James]

That's something from a long time ago.

But you haven't changed at all since then.

 

[pentagathus]

Didn't say the UK is Orwellian, the thought of limiting information and limiting free speech in any way is Orwellian in nature.

I know you're apparently done here but I'd like to point out the stupidity of what I've quoted.
Imagine a scenario in which someone uses nothing but words to convince another person to commit a crime. It's just free speech right? Surely it shouldn't be criminal. So if I were to do decide it would be fun to convince someone that you were a child molester, and that I'd overheard you plotting to rape their child I'd obviously not be in any way responsible for their actions now, and obviously it would be completely Orwellian if the law didn't reflect this. So if you were murdered or assaulted because of my lies it would be absolutely tyrannical for the legal system to persecute poor old me over this.
Likewise on a less dramatic note, if I were to publish blatant lies about a business which negatively affect the performance and reduce their profits it would be obscene for the legal system to brand this as libel or slander and then penalise me for simply expressing my right to speak freely.

 

[Age of Empires ¶ Densetsu]

 

[Dystopian]

Damn he got roasted outta the thread  be strong Gronsiir, come back

 

[Arvenski]

Good job, Jacob. That was awesome.

 

[Captured Joe]

Is there a ban for UK media to prevent them from reporting on this too? I've seen it mentioned but I can't find proper sources...

This is looking off.

 

[Cpt. Nemo]

That wasn't a roast, that was a goddamn murder. Well done Jacob.