578 said:
I want Nords in Bannerlord!
I've said before, and I'm fairly sure it was in reply to you, that there doesn't have to be a direct link between each Bannerlord faction and the Warband factions. The fact that Lust isn't sure suggests that
nobody at Taleworlds is sure because they just took inspiration from real life tribes AND Warband factions. Naturally current factions will have similarities and they may have thought of linking some or all of them to the Warband factions, but that doesn't mean each faction morphs wholly into a Warband one, or even that there is a direct link at all. The similarities are there to let your imagination think of possible stories, but just like real life there are often only similarities and suggestions of connections in many cases. It is like trying to trace high medieval France back to Frankish tribes crossing the Rhine, or the Lombards of northern Italy (roughly 500-770 AD) with later medieval kingdoms there.
Nords are
like Vikings, but that doesn't mean they ARE Vikings, and Sturgians ARE
like Vikings (axe and sword infantry their stated speciality, round shields) but this doesn't mean they ARE vikings or Nords. What's more, IF they were declared ancestors of the Nords, why would they have to be the same in every respect? The lamellar and helmets resemble Vaegir ones somewhat- so what? This equipment would not be known purely by one faction or group of tribes (might be a better way to think of the factions since they are split into clans and historically this provides a more accurate reflection of real life), like armour in real life knowledge of it would have spread and it could become popular with various people. Lamellar might just have fallen out of favour with the Sturgians for some reason, or if a tribe/clan that specialised in its production or use died out (due to loss of status within the faction or emigrating elsewhere in the world) then the later Sturgians/proto Nords would start using something else. Or the clans that favour lamellar the most might have split off at some point in the two hundred years before Warband, and either alone or after merging with new clans (from other factions or outside of Calradia) gradually become the people we know as Vaegirs in Warband. Or the Sturgians, Battanians etc. were virtually disbanded and culturally wiped out by invasion or assimilation into a resurgent Empire or they all migrated in the face of a Khuzait horde.
All that goes for a Vaegir connection too. The Rus were Swedish vikings who invaded what is now known as Russia. They traded and raided down the Dnieper river (I think that's the one), even attacking Constantinople, however over time they adapted to use a lot more cavalry, because they fought nomadic cavalry armies a lot, and the vast plains make cavalry useful. There might have been Sturgian clans that migrated to areas where geography and enemy army composition meant that using more cavalry made sense, or Khuzaits might have increasingly become close neighbours and enemies, forcing the clans to adapt. The same can explain the use of more archers; Battanian clans might have joined the Sturgian ones, or the Sturgian clans might simply have adapted over time having seen the effectiveness of the Battanian archers.
Anyway, you do have a 'viking' faction because the Sturgians are infantry using round shields and swords and axes. If the fact that they have other equipment and town names evocative of slavic or eastern cultures ruins it for you, that's a shame, though in truth such characteristics could probably be found in Swedish and Rus vikings in real life, so if you really need to have a Nord or unadulterated viking faction in the game, think of the Sturgians as purer vikings than the Nords!
In summary;
It would be a bit boring and rather unrealistic to have carbon copies of the Warband factions in Bannerlord.
There is no firm connection between Sturgians and the Nords or vikings, but they are all predominately infantry factions with round shields and favouring axes and swords. The similarity is striking.
They could be connected to the Vaegirs and/or the Nords, but equally there may be no clans from the Sturgians that go on to become ancestors of either Warband faction.
If you want a 100% indisputably 'western viking' faction then the Sturgians aren't it, but they are viking with an eastern edge, just like real life eastern vikings.
There is no reason why Vaegirs wouldn't have an infantry focused ancestor.
