Madijeis said:
Lancer. Catalonaum is the famed last victory of Rome and Flavius Etius the equally famed last Roman. One of the bloodiest battles in history as well. The song a dying swan you could say.
I had been researching Attila's life and this particular battle for a very long time.
Huns destroyed the last army stock of the Empire, Gauls and made the empire vulnerable to any further attacks.
Ofc, before invading Italy he had to rest his troops since they had been through a very bloody war.
Unfortunately for Huns, Romans were the only ones who kept record of history and they had a people to maintain public order on
and Romans using propaganda is not a very odd thing to say.
I know what are said for this battle in western scholars. The thing is European countries see Roman Empire as the father of European civilization(which is true btw). Flavius Aetius the last true roman and this battle is the last roman victory so long story short they are romantizing this battle which clouds their reasoning.
Except one thing, one year later Attila the Hun marches to Italy and the only thing that makes him turn back is the disease in Roman cities, Romans accept to pay tribute and Attila leaves to plan his attack on Sassanids(but he dies in 453 in his wedding night).
I assure you wikipedia used to say it was a decisive Roman victory but now it says tactical outcome disputed, strategic importance disputed.
+Roccoflipside
I know where you are coming around you are saying they lost the battle but win the war.
The thing is, such things like these are defined by humans.
Victory. What is victory ? According to Eastern Roman Empire's military philosophy war meant diplomatical failure but for more warlike societies it was an opportunity to expand and a reality of life.
You can say that Attila's real aim was to invade Italy and he failed so it was a defeat for him and I can say Attila's real aim was to have a bloody war with Romans therefore running them out of manpower so that he can invade them one year later.
I think wikipedia gave the right call to call it tactically disputed but I think it should have been strategic Hunnic victory.
Anyway, that example of Taleworlds was bad not because Huns won the war or sth but because Hunnic army was more Germanic than Hunnic, there were a lot of Germanic tribes and Taleworlds was giving examples for defeats of Horse archer armies.
EDIT:
+FlaviusAetius
After inflicting enough damage to Romans so that they cant raise an army in his future invasions.
cough Attila's invasion of 452 cough ! Where was Roman Army cough !