I agree, would be nice to have a srs stream if the community was actually large, but if you don't get over 100 viewers there's little point. probably a good idea to keep it going tho for bonerlords, hope you sort out the eu stuffEfe Karacar said:Personally, I always found BladeCast over-serious in streams, idea was solid but it just didn't work. I found it a lot more enjoyable when streams are made "less professional", old-school. BRO is a good example at the moment, at least for me. (They even made a splash screen in paint with absolutely terrifying design taste while they were live, and I really enjoyed watching that 15 minutes.)
NC finals and such important big matches had like 150 viewers in the past !PepperKP said:I agree, would be nice to have a srs stream if the community was actually large, but if you don't get over 100 viewers there's little point. probably a good idea to keep it going tho for bonerlords, hope you sort out the eu stuffEfe Karacar said:Personally, I always found BladeCast over-serious in streams, idea was solid but it just didn't work. I found it a lot more enjoyable when streams are made "less professional", old-school. BRO is a good example at the moment, at least for me. (They even made a splash screen in paint with absolutely terrifying design taste while they were live, and I really enjoyed watching that 15 minutes.)
Efe Karacar said:Personally, I always found BladeCast over-serious in streams, idea was solid but it just didn't work. I found it a lot more enjoyable when streams are made "less professional", old-school. BRO is a good example at the moment, at least for me. (They even made a splash screen in paint with absolutely terrifying design taste while they were live, and I really enjoyed watching that 15 minutes.)
I disagree. If you try to watch an early stream say from BiT compared to a more professional setup such as MB_Tv, and subsequently the setup for UNAC Season 1 that was inspired by it, it's a night and day difference. I try to bring humor into the casting that I do for entertainment value, but keeping the stream focused on the match and highlight what people are there to actually watch is paramount imo. Bladecast_TV has taken it one step further in the proper direction.PepperKP said:I agree, would be nice to have a srs stream if the community was actually large, but if you don't get over 100 viewers there's little point. probably a good idea to keep it going tho for bonerlords, hope you sort out the eu stuffEfe Karacar said:Personally, I always found BladeCast over-serious in streams, idea was solid but it just didn't work. I found it a lot more enjoyable when streams are made "less professional", old-school. BRO is a good example at the moment, at least for me. (They even made a splash screen in paint with absolutely terrifying design taste while they were live, and I really enjoyed watching that 15 minutes.)
Scar said:I think some European streamers took offense when they saw our promotion video ("New Way of Streaming", "Professional", "Superb Production") and thought we were looking down on their work. That was not the case, the promotion video is simply a very American way to promote a product, a way that Europeans may have issues getting along with.
...a couple of European streamers made a couple of let's say odd remarks. This is when we realised that we might have pissed them off.
Efe Karacar said:Personally, I always found BladeCast over-serious in streams, idea was solid but it just didn't work. I found it a lot more enjoyable when streams are made "less professional", old-school. BRO is a good example at the moment, at least for me. (They even made a splash screen in paint with absolutely terrifying design taste while they were live, and I really enjoyed watching that 15 minutes.)
Guaccmoleboy said:The main difference I see between the EU and NA streams with Bladecast is a lack of quality, Oliveran seems to stream on EU instead of Deafening and there are technical problems abound, plus the quality seems to dip way more in comparison. Plus, Bladecast doesn't seem wholly interested or dedicated enough in EU which transfers over to the quality of their streams.
Mad Dawg said:I disagree. If you try to watch an early stream say from BiT compared to a more professional setup such as MB_Tv, and subsequently the setup for UNAC Season 1 that was inspired by it, it's a night and day difference. I try to bring humor into the casting that I do for entertainment value, but keeping the stream focused on the match and highlight what people are there to actually watch is paramount imo. Bladecast_TV has taken it one step further in the proper direction.
I feel the underlying goal for this project was to setup a professional organized effort for people outside of the community ie. sponsors and e-sport style websites. You have to have a product before people are willing to buy into it and a goofy stream with sub-par casting and effects isn't something that will "WOW" anyone outside of the niche group. You have to act the part before the opportunities open themselves up.
Thanks for the info Scar. Hopefully things can get back on track when some situations change. Keep up the great work Cal and crew.
Guy Fawkes said:To be honest making it look like so professional does not fit to this community anymore, since we have around 25-50 viewers for the biggest matches nowadays. But if you guys think this is a preperation for next game coming, i would not say that is a bad idea.
I would not say what BRO does is best to increase the competition between teams and to bring back the interest of community to the game neither. I would prefer a middle way between MB_Tv's exciting, passionate casting and BRO's casual, humoristic casting. But that is just their way, and seems like there are people enjoying it.
P.S: This is all about EU streams, NA is not my concern.
_Osiris_ said:Not trying to flame anyone here just trying to be constructive
I just think its more the commentators for EU rather than anything else, They just lacked the passion and hype that MB_TV produced, The stream didn't seem more professional than MB_TV using the same mod and same layouts just with a couple of extra images, you guys had a better channel info but what made MB_TV great for so long was the casting.
You had/have good analytical casters but you only really put them with other analytical casters there is no one who gets excited or shows a lot of passion when things are about to go down. EU only, NA is more passionate a bit from what i saw (ofc with the game starting to wind down its hard to get any casters at all ^^)
examples of what i mean (NOT saying casting is bad just they should be combined with someone who brings le passion"
Bladecast EU
https://youtu.be/yxI1U9XtscE?t=1604
https://youtu.be/BqJN_8LHOYw?t=1928
MB_tv
https://youtu.be/vBN32HSU8Co?t=1284
https://youtu.be/ZZIq0xgv0v4?t=846
MBTV just feels more exciting to watch, but as i said you cant pair up good analytical casters with good hype/passionate casters if there is a lack of either. That should be pretty easy to solve when bannerlord comes out for sure
Killfacer said:I agree completely with Osiris.
I think total humour streams tend to be kind of boring and I pretty quickly turn off the sound. There needs to be a good balance with commentators who are serious/knowledgeable but also funny. It's a big shame if we lose Bladecast in Europe now MB_TV is gone. Unfortunately I don't really have the time to contribute in any meaningful way but if there is a way then I urge you to reconsider.
Also if anyone complains about a **** advert for your stream tell them to **** off.
Scar said:I think some European streamers took offense when they saw our promotion video ("New Way of Streaming", "Professional", "Superb Production") and thought we were looking down on their work.
PepperKP said:I agree, would be nice to have a srs stream if the community was actually large, but if you don't get over 100 viewers there's little point.Efe Karacar said:Personally, I always found BladeCast over-serious in streams, idea was solid but it just didn't work. I found it a lot more enjoyable when streams are made "less professional", old-school. BRO is a good example at the moment, at least for me. (They even made a splash screen in paint with absolutely terrifying design taste while they were live, and I really enjoyed watching that 15 minutes.)
Hippotitis said:The goal of my streams is for myself to have fun, if people enjoy it then I am all the happier but I don't think it's my place to be streaming higher profile matches. I see us as more of a Bronze match kinda stream.
Blivandefar said:boogy is the best medieval microphone dynasty warrior i ever heard. get that man speaking over some mount & blade: warband live gameplay footage and all our panties will be seeping.
Calamity said:If you didn't want to stream a higher profile match, you shouldn't have streamed the ECS finals after we decided to do it first.