Well if S O M E Armenians do think the way I believe they might, then yes. But that is not limited to Armenians, but involves all humans.
And some Turkish people think of Armenians as sub-human, as evident by the polls taken there regularly. Is your point that because some might think ill of you, you should mistreat them all for it? If so, then it justifies the Armenians hating all Turks...right?
Do I have to justify myself further?
No, because your argument doesn't justify your position whatsoever. It actually makes your stance worse.
Okay I guess if I watch an Armenian video I start speaking on their behalf.
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Other Turks? Maybe. Me? No. Last time I checked, I hated their friends and was quite able to think for myself when it came to "enemies". Not that it might matter any longer at gunpoint.
Whose friends? Who do you hate? You are not making any sense.
It is good to know you know your position is not defendable.
Yes yes, I know. The Turkish stance on the Armenian genocide is the only thing being attacked here, I got the message.
Apparently it is a message you can't grasp.
Okay I believe I need to clarify this right now before this gets out of hand:
I am being sarcastic at some points, you might have noticed. Also when one says "all", it is very possible that one means "most". And with "to me it seems most" was not meaning "as good as 100%" but, as an approximate feeling, "70%".
I did not change my opinion. You just misunderstood, keep misunderstanding or pretend to misunderstand.
How the hell is that being sarcastic? Learn the definition of sarcasm before you try to hide behind it. And no, this did little to clarify your position other than having an asinine distrust and hatred of the Armenian people. You trying to justify it behind meaning 70% of Armenians instead of 100% being monstrous enemies again does little to make you look good.
This still makes you a bigot towards the Armenians and are hateful towards them.
"attempt to assume" is not quite fitting, is it? You, as everyone else is, could be a potential racist. What is so insane about that? If, lets say, 1/10 of Germans are racist and I see someone on the street and say to myself "That guy might be racist with a 1/10 potential" is not wrong or insane.
Your argument gets ****tier by the moment.
You, just being here, posting in this thread, puts you into a category in my head. If you are not anti-Turkish, great. That is a nice thing.
I don't care what you think of me. lol Someone who could defend or ignore the genocide of an entire people and hate them all for it is not someone I can ever respect nor care about. And the fact that you cannot distinguish yourself from the Turkish government/country that you see criticism of it and its genocides as being anti-Turkish speaks volumes.
Criminals killed innocent people, no doubt about that, that I can acknowledge.
The Ottoman Empire killed them, using their Special Operations and the military, and killed Turkish people who harbored the Armenians. That makes the Ottoman Empire the problem here, the "criminals".
But for the Armenian genocide? I do not see the evidence as much convincing. Whatever that means as a non-historian.
What evidence has convinced you it didn't happen? Can you at least, in all your lacking arguments, provide for that much? What has unreasonably set you on this opinion that decades worth of evidence cannot detach you from it?
"Why won't you admit" Well, I could acknowledge it, but I am not a criminal who is supposed to admit.
Why is it not enough for you when I would say that I am sorry that humans died during pointless conflict? It is not me who is making this personal.
You don't have to be personally responsible for the genocide to admit it happened? I'm not responsible for the Holocaust, but I can admit it happened. I'm not responsible for how the Native Americans were treated, but I can admit it. I'm not responsible for the Armenian genocide, but I can admit it. I'm not responsible for the Crusades, but I can admit they happened too.
And the problem is that you refuse to acknowledge that it was done because they were Armenians. It wasn't a few rogue Turkish killing a few thousand Armenians. It was the act of an entire government to eliminate an entire group of people for who they are. It was mass murder for who they were, because who they were was not considered people. That is why is important, because denial leads to people like you—who hate people you don't even know because someone else told you they are out to get you.
I do not need anyone to take me seriously.
I'm sure that's why you keep posting, hell bent on making us accept that the Armenians are monsters and they weren't victims of a genocide. Sure thing, buddy, you don't want people to take you seriously.
Yours too. We are beyond the point of this thread. So I guess we can go a bit further. Do you acknowledge that there has been a Turkish genocide too? If yes, well congratulations. That is great. If not, well then I will assume you have an agenda.
The point of this thread is the genocide of Armenians perpetuated by the Turkish country. So naturally discussion of it, its evidence, how the denial of such leads to problematic developments of a people and its country, and your view on it falls within relevance to the topic at hand.
I don't need to acknowledge another genocide to talk about this one. What part of this don't you grasp? This thread isn't about a Turkish genocide, this is about an Armenian genocide. One doesn't need the other to exist. If you want to talk about Turkish genocides, open up a thread about it and what's more, wait until someone pops in to ask you why you aren't talking about the Armenian genocide. Maybe then you will grasp why it holds no relevance here.
I only noticed after a certain point that your tone is just pure ****.
Every argument with or without evidence against the occurance of the Armenian genocide, I am pretty sure, probably has been exhausted in this thread.
My ****ty attitude of...pointing out the issues with your stance and your denial of the genocide? Yea, real ****ty of me. ?
And no, there is no evidence to disprove the genocide. Prove to us otherwise, if you won't, you are quite literally talking out of your ass.
Tell you what. If you were to acknowledge a Turkish genocide, I would go on to acknowledge the Armenian genocide. As in Armenians having killed Turks. Would be just between the two us tho, as I am not the Turkish government and you not the Armenian one.
Not how it works.
And governments don't decide what is or isn't a genocide. ?