I think they're pretty balanced
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I think they're pretty balanced
Amazing how there are still people asking for buffs to spears when they're still so strong just because they were "the best in history". Enjoy playing a game where only 1 weapon dominates and every fight is reduced to a mere thrust spam just because "muh realism".
Spears are still superior in 1h duels, at least for me just cus they have the best range and are the easiest. If to choose between 2h weapons - falx and a vlandian knight cav sword I personally like the most.You, know there is truth to both sides.
In group fights it is easily the best support weapon.
On the other hand, spear might feel weak in duels. Especially to new players.But it also depends on the weapon and if the player has acces to a shield.
I still like to duel with the eastern throwing spear and a shield. But there are other spears where I don't like to do that. Most of them actually.
What I do think is that in every case spears are unreliable. You glance of quite easily, you only stagger the enemy if you hit the head or torso and sometimes the attackangle to rear horses is off.
Spears habe hardly weaker in the last months but they have also became unreliable.
I can agree to both sides of the spear debate.
I played them today and yesterday and even after the recent changes i consider them to be insanely good .are you posting this after watching a video from version b0.5.2 and still thinks its the same? Because thats what you ranted about for an entire match.
Spears were OP in reality they should be strong
I mean there is a new wave of keys. Can't believe you didn't expect that. You have seen that so many times now.
And to be honest, while I think that spears are too strong, you need some skill to use them in a 1 vs 1 scenario. And also there is a big difference in teamplay between TDM and Skirmish.
So while I do agree that spear are too strong most of the time, I get why new players think they are weak.
Guys, my point is that they need a rework, not a nerf or buff. We just have to find the best possible way to change them so that they will be neither broken, op nor useless
Spear spam in skirmish was torture. Thing is there were pepole back then that thought spears were """balanced""" . Those might be the pepole unironically calling for a buff now.I don't want to relive the spear spam in skirmish please don't make anyone have to live through that.
Are you drunk or something? Spear is literally useless in a duel and you ACTUALLY cannot say otherwise?? Imagine going into a duel with a spear even bots would think better.Amazing how there are still people asking for buffs to spears when they're still so strong just because they were "the best in history". Enjoy playing a game where only 1 weapon dominates and every fight is reduced to a mere thrust spam just because "muh realism".
Are you drunk or something? Spear is literally useless in a duel and you ACTUALLY cannot say otherwise?? Imagine going into a duel with a spear even bots would think better.
I honestly cannot understand how a lot of people think the spear needs a nerf, it needs a buff if anything.
I win every duel when someone uses a spear, as a matter of fact I dominate anyone using a spear hence why I don't ever try it myself because it seems ****e, but maybe if I tried it I would realise how "overpowered" it is?
Are you drunk or something? Spear is literally useless in a duel and you ACTUALLY cannot say otherwise?? Imagine going into a duel with a spear even bots would think better.
I honestly cannot understand how a lot of people think the spear needs a nerf, it needs a buff if anything.
I win every duel when someone uses a spear, as a matter of fact I dominate anyone using a spear hence why I don't ever try it myself because it seems ****e, but maybe if I tried it I would realise how "overpowered" it is?
We need a buff.
Guys, my point is that they need a rework, not a nerf or buff. We just have to find the best possible way to change them so that they will be neither broken, op nor useless
in my opinion they are fine as they are right nowAmazing how there are still people asking for buffs to spears when they're still so strong just because they were "the best in history". Enjoy playing a game where only 1 weapon dominates and every fight is reduced to a mere thrust spam just because "muh realism".
If you think this should be a thing please stop playing the game, or shut up during balance discussions ****ing plebs
That said, they should probably also be slightly more effective against cavalry - you don't do that by increasing their speed or damage though, because that will **** over melee even more.