Votes me, no reason. I assume this is because I had literally just identified him as scum in our last game, and what remained of Team Crazy Panda killed him. In hindsight, I’m certain Whoopin had a hand in Soot’s death, for the very meta reason of in the last time I’d narrowed it down to being Soot or Whoopin who was the solo killer, and my gut, coupled with the suspicion of others (including Soot, who also had a strong gut feeling) pegged the solo villain as Whoopin. In this game, too, Soot said that he thought Whoopin was scum, so for me that’s a solid link right there.
The Wolf is dangerous as scum, and so is Llandy. Here he refers to meta-reasons for pointing a FoS at myself and Wolf. In the case of the latter, Whoopin refers to a previous game in which Wolf was scum and emerged victorious. In my case, Whoopin refers to the last game in which I confessed to being the Alpha Wolf/Panda Roleblocker and convinced the whole village to help me find and target what I believed was a solo converter, which then resulted in Whoopin’s death. This is a clear indication of him shifting suspicion to two other players, and it does actually make me feel more comfortable that he’s doing it to Wolf as well as to me. Same post, says he’ll accept the Watch majority since it’s a role which requires targetting and could be dangerous for a wolf to get the role as they could hunt innocent specials.
Next two posts, meta with me/Wolf, a couple of fluff posts after that.
Reassures Velmu and votes himself for Watch. Hindsight = obvious attempt at buddying up with an innocent and attempt to get a wolf into the Watch role.
Next post claims WIFOM x3 for me, Moss playing coy, Xardob being deceptive, x3 and Wolf trying to be less suspicious (no quote-posts for him, though). Ends by lurker-voting Snoopy under the guise of not potentially “compromising” an innocent (hindsight, read: protecting an innocent from being killed by his pack) and says that he thinks a wolf is supporting his Watch wagon (note to self, look at who did this). I think both Twinkle and Snoopy accurately called this, in that Twinkle suspected Whoopin’s packmate(s) were supporting him for Watch, and Snoopy picked up on his dodgy lurker-voting of her.
Wolf’s contributions have made Whoopin think twice about Twinkle. Possibly buddying up to Wolf here? Next, he
starts to question Twinkle in a way that was VERY reminiscent of his last game when he was scum, IMO.
Next post is where he starts to
lose all credibility with me. He tries to point Twinkle at Xardob, makes disparaging posts @Twinkle’s “~Twinkle”s and claims Xardob has been “busted” as scum. I still think Xardob is dumb for saying that he thought what Whoopin was doing was “honest” since I’ve only played 2 games with Whoopin and have already identified that when he’s scum his first priority is to take out everyone who might possibly be a threat to him (Adaham, ejnomad and Xardob in Dwarfmining, and now in this game a kill on Soot and an attempted lynch on Xardob/ejnomad/me) so again, with hindsight, Xardob should probably have known better. At the end of this post, Whoopin votes Xardob.
Blah blah blah Twinkle/Xardob etc click it and read because I’m too lazy to try and make sense of what he’s saying here.
More on the Xardob stuff and a post @Nipple about
why he’s totes not scum because he’s playing different to last game in which he was a solo killer. (BTW, Orj, I can’t believe you fell for that too). After that, Whoopin is
seriously disappointed in Soot disregarding all his “hard work”… presumably right before his pack killed him to death. So yeah.
Speculation about this game because of HEY, TWILIGHT ZONE II! After that,
Soot is clearly biased. Yes, clearly.
Now, here’s something a little more interesting. A post @ejnomad’s claim that if Wolf keeps speculating about mechanics he should be
lynched with all haste. To me this looks like a real packmate defence, whilst trying to put some suspicion on ejnomad, all the while appearing to make it look “joking” with those smileys. Also
think I agree with ejnomad too easily.
Next, admits that he gets away with his play because it’s just
“Whoopin being Whoopin” and since technically Orj fell for this it’s technically a valid thing, but anyone who falls for it in the future is a moron (no offence, Orj!).
Then, Whoopin is
on Eternal’s case!. I wonder what became of that. Nothing? Yeah, nothing. It’s a short post, so just click and read. After that he helpfully provides a post of
pending replies for Eternal to answer. Then asks
Twinkle about his thoughts on Eternal and provides
pending replies.
Some stuff about AW and his knife which I replied to after that post and am too lazy to summarise again, so read if you actually give a damn. Then, Whoopin
disagrees with Eternal encouraging people to move and says that everyone has a reason for being in their rooms, specifically stating that he himself won’t move out of the Tavern unless forced to by people not moving out. Make a note of this, it’s important later.
Same post, Whoopin is TOTES on the same page as Eternal because they both called out ejnomad for “knowing” wolf mechanics and me for agreeing with him. They are like TOTES BFFs now ^__^ Later in the post, unLurkervotes Snoopy and says he hopes the Healer is already in there with here. Thinks I’m suspicious for speculating. No surprise there, Moose thought I was suspicious too, so it seems to be a thing that wolves find people suspicious for.
Claims I’m the thief and immediately votes me for claiming he’s role-fishing with his “I hope the Healer is already in there” comment. This marks the place where he switches his focus on lynching Xardob to lynching me. Says his ego-guesses are never straight-up guesses which he pulls out of his ass and YOU GUYS WHO THOUGHT HE WAS INNOCENT SHOULD DEFINITELY REMEMBER THIS FOR THE NEXT TIME YOU PLAY WITH HIM. Votes me, more waffling, etc.
Here’s an
LoS of sorts in which Xardob, me, ejnomad and Moss are red and the blue players are: Locke, Eternal, Leprechaun, Phonemelter, Shatari, SootShade, Twinkle, Velpulus. Of those, we know that Soot and Velmu were indeed innocent, and we think Locke is too. If we rule out Twinkle because of nomad’s observations, this leaves Eternal, Leprechaun and Melter. The overlap here with Moose is that they both agree on Eternal and Melter being innocent, whilst Moose listed Lep as red, and Whoopin listed him as blue.
I’m still the thief and holy crap am I not looking forward to attempting to summarise the next 10 posts of his. But here goes.
Llandy is the best bet for a lynch today and totally locked herself out of her own room, also I might be packmates with Moss. Same post, Whoopin doesn’t like the idea of AW giving the knife to someone else.
Introduces a Wiki entry on the Black Death to counter one of Lep’s claims. Same post, claims he isn’t threatened by anyone but Adaham yet @Melter admits that I’ve never been lynched even when role-claiming a wolf. I think Melter had the right of it here, in that he saw me a threat. More ego crap, yada yada. More meta about his own game. Again states Moss, me, nomad and Xardob as wolves. Then I’m creating a smokescreen. Still thinks I’m the thief.
Post @Melter that is literally painful to read knowing Whoopin’s actual alignment, some crap about “anti-suspicion” and “anti-tunnelvision” which amounts to trying to get Melter to lynch me.
Smokescreen vs Framing bull**** amongst some other stuff,
I’m totally a key-stealer and possibly a converter, in a badly quoted post claims that I tried to
discredit his maths and disparages my contributions (note to self, add Whoopin to The List with Moss), more of
HERE’S HOW IT WORKED IN MY GAME! designed to mislead players, along with why he thought Snoopy was contagious. At this point, with hindsight, I don’t think Snoopy is a packmate with Whoopin. There’s just too much here telling me otherwise.
Fairly detailed case against me and hey, looks like I was right about Whoopin being a liar. End of the post, a “sorry if you guys don’t think my wolf-hunting is up to par” pity-farming post that echoes a very similar post he made @Adaham in Dwarfcraft right before killing him.
Smokescreen vs Frame again, using logic so feeble it falls over and nobody even attempts to question it further.
Ongoing lies and fallacy about me click to read because I am seriously bored right now,
HEY MY THOUGHTS ON LLANDY TOTALLY WEREN’T INFLUENCED BY MOSS, BECAUSE REMEMBER, I ALREADY SAID I DIDN’T REMEMBER WHAT MOSS SAID ABOUT LLANDY BEFORE I MADE MY CASE ON HER and I KNOW that I am making this longer and more personal than it needs to be but WTSF people, you still thought he was innocent at this point????? Please note this for FUTURE GAMES. I am trying to HELP YOU here.
Places
Velmu as “grey” ie, can’t get a good enough read on him to call his alignment. We know now that Velmu was innocent, so make of that what you will.
Some more reasons why Xardob, Llandy and ejnomad are suspicious. Hilarious
EMOTIONAL BLACKMAIL which potentially contributed to saving him from being knife-stabbed by AW. Again, please not for future reference, players who engage in emotional blackmail are probably scum. I did it in Mengelberg and Whoopin did it here. REMEMBER THIS.
My post makes Whoopin cringe and it sure would be really nice, by golly, to know my alignment! I suspect he was pissed that nobody was taking his case on me seriously. Now, Whoopin would
stab me right away if he had the knife. Pity AW didn’t give it to him, because that would have 1) saved Velmu who had a role, 2) shown everybody that Whoopin was scum, 3) saved me having to review this crap all over again. Same post, me, ejnomad and Xardob are totes wolves and he’d lynch/knife us in that order. Seriously. So bored. 95% of what he talks about is me, ejnomad and Xardob. If I didn’t know that Xardob was innocent, and I am innocent, and ejnomad is very likely innocent, I’d probably suspect one of us of being his packmate by this point. What kept me from believing it yesterday is recalling how Whoopin eliminated his greatest threats in Dwarfcraft.
Why we should lynch Llandy.
Lurker votes Velmu. Possibly suspected Velmu of having a special role?
Wants AW to threaten me or ejnomad with the knife. Asks
Melter (and also
here) about his thoughts on me. Also tried this with Soot and Lep. Didn’t get anywhere with them, either.
Considers me
suspcious for voting Moss instead of him. Thinks that me saying “
Go ahead and stab me” is a Wolfy WIFOM. Very ironic. Explains the emotional blackmail was just him stating his mind. And some of you FELL FOR IT. Still wants to
stab me, then some
back and forth with Melter about unimportant stuff, I haven’t yet
convinced Whoopin he’s making a mistake lynching me.
Sets the record straight on his stance on Velmu (hindsight, this is a cover), Watch-votes Melter — NOTE: this is one of the unncessary votes after the 4th, and I believe an attempt to try and win trust. Lurker votes Lamb. Misrepresents my top 3 suspects.
Blah blah blah @me/ejnomad, nothing you haven’t read before, and Whoopin is glad AW didn’t keep the knife until Day 2. No ****, he stabbed an innocent.
Hey, here are our top 4 suspects for a Day 1 Lynch and Twinkle would be his second choice over Locke/Wolf despite thinking that Twinkle is innocent?? Hindsight, potential protecting a packmate (Wolf) by using the votes of others to justify his switch. I should’ve picked up on this before now.
Oh no, it looks like the Top 4 aren’t really a Top 4. I think Melter called this on a self-aware wolf realising he made a mistake and retracting it quickly.
Analyses Moss and labels him red, then
follows me into the Guardhouse.
Questions why I move when he follows me, and as Lep so accurately points out, it was because I thought he was scum.
Gets amusingly pissy when Lamb appears to vote him and says he’s willing to vote me or Nomad, but is waiting for ej’s case on Moss (Freudian slip here?? We were waiting for ej’s case on Moose at this point).
Lep and Lamb are big bullies and have tunnel-vision for voting Whoopin; hypocrisy at its finest.
Oh wait I was wrong about Lep but Lamb is still a bully.
Hey guys, I totally changed my mind about the Top 4 for genuine reasons and not because I’m a self-aware wolf LOL. Soot got this right in his LoS; I don’t think Whoopin knows how to play a wolf properly. He does however, in the same post, provide a VALUABLE SERVICE in finding innocents and “confidently” keeps Lep in this category.
I question Xardob’s lynch targets/contributions and get a
good post Llandy back-pat. Votes
ejnomad when nomad claims he’s putting his case together on Moose, in hindsight a clear packmate defence.
Oh wow, ejnomad is top of his lynch list!. Now he
votes Moose just to “vilify” that tactic of post dissection (presumably the tactic of being EFFECTIVE does not sit well with wolves), and look at how easy players joined the wagon! And he
still manages to cast aspersions on the first players on the wagon (presumably ejnomad, Xardob and me).
Huh, it’s suddenly a good idea for everyone to
spread out despite him disagreeing with Eternal’s advice about this earlier. Kooky! First real post of Day 2, now it’s
Xardob who’s back in the line of fire. He had to drop ejnomad, who started the lynch on Moose, and couldn’t convince enough people to lynch me especially since I was suspicious of Moose for a while and “sealed” the lynch with a third vote. But Xardob’s vote came with no real suspicion and could be twisted into potentially hoping a bandwagon might not take off.
Whoopin was torn on the Moose vote. Yeah, I’ll bet.
Hey everyone, please ask me some questions to help me out here. Points out that
Twinkle ignores Shatari, seems to be pushing attention onto Twinkle now that he’s lost ejnomad and me as innocents to lynch.
Questions me then
questions Xardob, thinks
Lamb is being sarcastic about Xardob being innocent “
Good boy Melter, you found me some specials, and by the way here’s some more stuff about my own game”,
Lamb is weird,
Xardob is a victim of backfire,
”yay questions” with more HEY MY GAME style responses (I didn’t realise he stuck this many of those in his posts, geez), and I’m still suspicious so all is right in the world.
R where I pick out the pertinent players he mentions (it’s a short list. Very short)
