SootShade said:
Honestly, I don't know where to even start. Everything?
And yes, his speculation about about me/you/Arch3r was lazy, since it doesn't seem to include any effort into distinguishing which one of us is the villain. Abandoning that idea completely to just 'lynch lurker' isn't any better either, and hanging the vote where he'd left it. In total, I don't see any effort to actually catch a wolf anywhere in that post. I'll consider compromising once it looks like we are heading to a lynch, but this is the stage where I want to find the wolves instead, where as Adaham seems to have decided to just skip that stage.
Simple. You're still trying. I kinda gave up. I'm like a high-culture towards the end of its cultural cycle: totally missing the necessary vitality to come up with anything remotely creative, but referring mechanically to its old traditions. I'm in a frozen state of cultural development, waiting to fade either into obscurity, or be overrun by barbarians (the latter would be an apt description of how it felt to play the championship on that other site). As each culture, my hunting, too, has been most healthy when I decided to stick with a method and run with it. As is inevitable with all cultures (and hunters), there is a time of reformation, also known as a "middle crisis" (not to mistake with a midlife crisis, not there yet), in which other elements, that so far have been suppressed, take over. Maybe Neoxardobism was something like that for me, who knows. This contrary movement is a form of degeneration of the original myth of the culture/hunter. The final state is one, in which the culture/hunter has returned to an equilibrium, a synthesis of all those methods. It is closer to reality, however unable to create coherent culture/hunting. For that to work, the culture/hunter needs to be slightly lopsided.
I know this might sound like a ton of bullsh!t to you, and I know it sorta doesn't belong here. It is, however, an honest assessment of where I'm at with playing WW. I still like it, I still like going through the motions, but if I don't find my footing early on, I find it very tedious to force myself to analyse something THAT I KNOW I COULD BE ANALYSING JUST AS WELL THE OTHER WAY AROUND. Last game I went completely silly to begin with, doing a Whoopin-impression. That was fun, but not seriously a lot of hunting in that, except that I tried making a page 1 prediction and trying to apply some pressure that went nowhere. Day 2 Jock did his best to remind me of my old instincts, going through the motions, so I caught on and tried it again. I was sincere about that, as demonstrated by my role. In the end we were both innocent.
So what does that tell us? It tells me in any case what I thought for a long time...that it's all pretty much bs, and so I'm looking at it from a meta-perspective. That perspective tells me, that if you get rid of active players, instead of lurkers, first, you'll have a problem in the endgame. That is empirical knowledge, based on effing 13 years of doing this here on the forum. It also tells me, that there is only so much you can do on day 1. And as I've stated earlier, due to the different rules to begin the day with, my methods to do my usual thing on day 1 were mostly invalidated.
If you expect me to wade through a ton of back and forth between Archer and Soot to ultimately decide, that I can't know for sure, and that it's better to have both of them around rather than more inactive players like Dark_Hamlet or Vieira (or even me), then I'm gonna have to disappoint you. I know already where I'm gonna land on this, and I'm not gonna waste my time trying to pretend it's otherwise.
So you might hate the message I'm giving you, and you might say - rightfully so - that I'm not giving you a lot to go on about me, all that is right. But I think I'm either far more disillusioned than you guys, or more honest, because I'm not sugarcoating my stupid decisions with some pretend-hunting. Or I'm actually both, which seems the most likely to me.
That being said, I'm not blaming your efforts. Good job, keep it up. It's a real joy to see people do some hunting when they still believe in it, and I mean this sincerely! As I said earlier, I think Moose could dial down the intensity a bit, but other than that, I'm happy to see people that still go for it. I'm literally just happy to hang out here, talk jack about cultural cycles, post a couple of memes, and vote for lurkers. I know that this isn't productive, and that a game with only guys like Xardob and me would be doomed. But we're still around, if you'll have us, and sometimes we still get some inspiration and try to do something about it. I, for instance, found Xardobs attempt to get 9 votes on him one of the most memorable parts of the game up till now.
TL;DR: I think my rundown was by far one of the most honest rundowns given in this game so far, because I didn't invest time into making up stories around it. If you don't like it and think that I'm a villain, for whatever reason, then that's part of the game, go ahead and vote me. But don't go around after I've said myself that I'm too lazy, that my list was lazy, that's just a cheap shot. Yes, I didn't include any effort distinguishing who's the villain...I STARTED MY ENTIRE POST BY SAYING "I CAN'T BRING MYSELF TO BULLSH!TTING SOMETHING". Don't walk around pretending like it's some sort of insight to say that I've been lazy, when I've said so myself.
Dark_Hamlet said:
To clarify on my decision to vote for Moose:
He seems too eager to get someone, anyone, lynched. He seems very anxious and why would he be so anxious if he's innocent? Like he's hoping no one will point fingers at him if he's the one pointing first.
My defense against Big Mac's:
Yours a lazy vote. Parking the vote at the noobie to avoid stirring the pot like Moose said. There's barely any reason behind your vote, besides lynching the lurkers.
I've read the lore and I try to keep up with the posts, but I won't post the bloody thesaurus every time I come here just to see what's up. I don't like posting for the sake of it. If I post it's because I think I have something worth saying otherwise I keep to myself.
If this is too much inactivity for you Big Mac then do as you wish, but you'll be killing an innocent. Perhaps this is exactly what you want to do.
Just one thing, out of this game...please don't take any of this personal. I think when you're posting you're doing a good job and are a welcome addition (that is, when you're not editing your posts). So nothing personal there, and no need for you to post the thesaurus, but you sure understand, that going after (perceived) lurkers is a valid tactic. I want to stress, however, that I'm not going after you because you're a "noobie", and I'd like to ask you not to play that card, because that could easily become a meta-discussion, and it detracts from the game.
Calling my vote a "lazy vote", however, is again nothing new and correct, since I've said so myself. And yes, there's barely any other reason for me to vote you, except that you are a lurker. If, however, the noob-thingy hurts you, I may consider switching to Vieira, who is anything but a noob, and then that's out of the way.
Your last sentence is also quite dramatic, however, it would come across even better in form of a meme like
Much better!
