QUESTIONS & SUGGESTIONS
If you have any question or you want to suggest something, feel free to do it here!
If you have any question or you want to suggest something, feel free to do it here!
Kiano said:Will the rules be posted before the first matches are played this evening?
[quote author=Fietta]Fietta said:More discussion on Donut please, the punishment was awful.
Hero_of_Ferelden said:[quote author=Fietta]Fietta said:More discussion on Donut please, the punishment was awful.
Without a harsh punishment given to something that clearly still gives you an advantage means that other people would be willing to use it for such little consequence
Gibby Jr said:Donut is banned for one match and has to take screenshots in all subsequent matches to prove he isn't using it. People comparing the Neogk mod to aimbot or wallhack are doing some mental gymnastics to try and argue that they're equal in the advantage they give, which they obviously aren't. Other admin teams have been very hardline with their decisions relating to this mod, but Donut appears to have been unaware of not only that fact, but of the fact that it wasn't allowed because of how many people use it to play on the servers that support it. I don't think Grafblade and Cr3a deserved permanent tournament bans for their use of it and I don't think Donut deserves a permanent tournament ban for it. However, if he fails to take the screenshots that are necessary or does so and shows himself using it again he will be issued with a ban for the rest of the tournament.
HKP said:i mean like this you can literally use it in final and not get any punishment for it since you keep the rounds lol
Watly said:HKP said:i mean like this you can literally use it in final and not get any punishment for it since you keep the rounds lol
Gibby can infallibly deduct whether someone cheated intentionally or definitely did not mean to. :^)
In all seriousness, that's what makes the saddest part of this ruling. We now risk the situation that if Gibby's teammate uses it, they can keep the rounds, whereas you and I would definitely lose them + permaban.
Watly said:HKP said:i mean like this you can literally use it in final and not get any punishment for it since you keep the rounds lol
Gibby can infallibly deduct whether someone cheated intentionally or definitely did not mean to. :^)
In all seriousness, that's what makes the saddest part of this ruling. We now risk the situation that if Gibby's teammate uses it, they can keep the rounds, whereas you and I would definitely lose them + permaban.
Fietta said:Replace 'we' with 'I' and then you're right, especially when 0 of the admins actually had a say in the decision of Donut's punishment, when was the last message put in the admin group chat? 3 weeks ago was it?
Gibby Jr said:Fietta said:Replace 'we' with 'I' and then you're right, especially when 0 of the admins actually had a say in the decision of Donut's punishment, when was the last message put in the admin group chat? 3 weeks ago was it?
ahh yes, fietta very familiar with the workings of the TWC admin team
it was discussed with several admins on steam.
Gibby Jr said:Watly said:HKP said:i mean like this you can literally use it in final and not get any punishment for it since you keep the rounds lol
Gibby can infallibly deduct whether someone cheated intentionally or definitely did not mean to. :^)
In all seriousness, that's what makes the saddest part of this ruling. We now risk the situation that if Gibby's teammate uses it, they can keep the rounds, whereas you and I would definitely lose them + permaban.
You think that only because you haven't looked at the reasoning of the admin team or because you are purposefully ignoring it. Donut received a lenient punishment because we don't believe he used the mod with the intention to cheat; in fact, we don't think he was aware that it wasn't allowed at all or that there was anything wrong with it. This is a genuine reason given the context of his regular play on servers like TG Arena which use the mod. All of the FT members are regular forum users and are fully aware of this ruling, so if one of them was using it in a match the only conclusion the admin team could come to would be that this player is attempting to gain an advantage. The same logic will be applied to other teams and players.