The new Subversion.

[G.Colonna]

Me I wouldn't complain about fight system, I love weapons breaking, lance breaking, damage system, lance recruitement for feudal and rural troops...I never played warband Native or another mod since graphisms and feels on the field are from far the best here. Same With Fire and Sword is a quite insipid thing in comparison of 1257AD.
But I wanted to ask to addicted players, why not form a "second swords" team to help Othr? I known Steevoos and Reikmarshal are doing stuff on scenes and map, me I could work a little on troops(just minor changes and adding of a few units, moreover make unic Lances for a few factions because actually Genoeses, Pisans, French, Almugaver Mercenary Lance, and the Lance in Pereyaslav aren't historically corrects.) I could of course explain in details why these Lances have to be changed(not in mind to get a Lance of 10 heavy cavalrymen )
And make proper tabbards for more western Lords as well. I've made a template from the work of kauik

 

[YourStepDad]

Same With Fire and Sword is a quite insipid thing in comparison of 1257AD.

I stopped reading there.

 

[Arszi]

After a good half year of hiatus I checked the progress of 1257 AD, and experienced that the javelins does not work anymore? The balanced throwing spear does 0 DMG on the lords during tournaments. The throwing spears/javelins will be this useless from now on, or it is just a temporary balance issue?

 

[G.Colonna]

I stopped reading there.

Me I don't plan to give 17 euros to this team which kept these ****s of Native faces when they were able to modelise and texture better ones. There are things that I can forgive to independant modders, but not to skilled professionals who vend their work.

You're free to simply ignore me and to play WFAS. 

The balanced throwing spear does 0 DMG on the lords during tournaments. The throwing spears/javelins will be this useless from now on, or it is just a temporary balance issue?

Something goes wrong with your files, I have two javeliners as companions and if I don't care in tournaments they can kill me with only one javelin.
But the small dards sucks...it deliver only 26 damages points, so if your throwing skills aren't enough, you could thrown your 7 dards on a lord, the effects would be neglectables.

 

[Evelyn]

So the only basis of your opinion on WFAS is that you don't like the faces when they could "modelise and texture better ones" instead?

 

[YourStepDad]

Actually wfas team has been the only one to update faces since vanilla mb, you are just blind. And how is this a measure of it's quality in any way?

 

[G.Colonna]

@Epicrules,not only, also the fights I don't like, I feels its not fluid like in 1257. Its maybe too the sound system which differ and let me this feeling of insipidity.
@YourStepDad, its you who is blind and do not see the difference between realistic faces made by modders and freely usables and ones which are sold but do not differ that much from the Native ones.

Anyway I stop the discussion here, sorry for being out-topic

 

[Arszi]

Something goes wrong with your files, I have two javeliners as companions and if I don't care in tournaments they can kill me with only one javelin.
But the small dards sucks...it deliver only 26 damages points, so if your throwing skills aren't enough, you could thrown your 7 dards on a lord, the effects would be neglectables.

It is working now. Maybe it was that infamous"0 DMG bug".

 

[VOIEVOD]

someone alive?

 

[.:Lestat de Lioncourt:.]

Is anyone still moderating this topic? If we have questions or issues?

 

[Peacemaker]

Uff I wasnt here for time being, but I tell you guys I didnt expect so much changes around this mod. Its a shame I cant tell if there are good changes or bad changes. I will start new game and I can tell afterwards probably...

 

[gencov0]

i have suggetion for newly updated scean of Karak castle.

i captured it and encounterd defend for heavy amount of muslims!
but they can't climing to siege ladder on top of the Super-Sloping-Slope.........

only thing to do is shootin in range or across the wall and kill them one-by-one myself........

scean looks incredibly cool!  but 'think got some issues..

 

[stevehoos]

i have suggetion for newly updated scean of Karak castle.

i captured it and encounterd defend for heavy amount of muslims!
but they can't climing to siege ladder on top of the Super-Sloping-Slope.........

only thing to do is shootin in range or across the wall and kill them one-by-one myself........

scean looks incredibly cool!  but 'think got some issues..

I will look in to this, as I made the scene. I have yet to experience this. When I extensively tested this scene a few revisions back it did not have any problems? I know it is not related to an AI  mesh problem. Was it just the archers that did not charge? I can't think of what changes or bugs would cause this? 

 

[gencov0]

i have suggetion for newly updated scean of Karak castle.

i captured it and encounterd defend for heavy amount of muslims!
but they can't climing to siege ladder on top of the Super-Sloping-Slope.........

only thing to do is shootin in range or across the wall and kill them one-by-one myself........

scean looks incredibly cool!  but 'think got some issues..

I will look in to this, as I made the scene. I have yet to experience this. When I extensively tested this scene a few revisions back it did not have any problems? I know it is not related to an AI  mesh problem. Was it just the archers that did not charge? I can't think of what changes or bugs would cause this?

Thanks for replying stevehoos!
I was playing recently version of revision..(274 something? Dont know presisly...)
And found some similar issue in byzantine castles
When i sieze one, My men cant walk up or down the stairs
And cant find way to enemy of top of inside walls..
I think they looks couldnt recognize stairs exist...

 

[Jaakko]

I noticed some materials were using bump_static with blue normals, which won't really work well. For example Constantinople walls.

So I took freedom to convert some of the normal maps to green format, but I didn't probably caught all of them.

I dont know if I'm allowed to do this, remove the link if you want, but here are the new textures.
http://www.mediafire.com/?9xyuosubcp5szij

Just put all files to your textures folder.

Another, maybe easier way would be just changing the shader for material.

 

[Nikephoros]

Just to know, have you been able to add my byzantine hippodrome scene after all?

 

[DrTomas]

Just to know, have you been able to add my byzantine hippodrome scene after all?

Send it my way, i'll add it to our(mine and kuauik's) 1.0 release.

 

[11sparky11]

Really? I thought you guys had left it to Othr. Look forward to it glad you're back.

 

[DrTomas]

Really? I thought you guys had left it to Othr. Look forward to it glad you're back.

Well, othr disappeared again for more then a month. Because it's unclear if he's coming back or not - we decided that we should just make the original version we with kuauik planed back a few months ago.

 

[11sparky11]

This is the best news this mod has had for a long time- maybe everyone will stop whining now.