[NEW RELEASE SEPTEMBER 13 V1.2]Blue Blood - Description and Downloads
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I sure can, check my E1200 banners (f.e. here: http://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php/topic,214348.msg5378864.html#msg5378864. )Where should I put/send them?Udud said:
And it would be cool to have some references.
I only know of a couple of Italian families, so I can't really help much but perhaps you might wish to try your hands at some of their coats.
The Cajetani family, for instance, had a number of different banners. Initially, before a convinient marriage merged them with a northern Italian lineage, they had two waves on yellow field as their banner http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/it/a/a7/Stemma_Caetani.PNG Eventually, after gaining connections in the north, their coat began a little more complex: http://web.tiscalinet.it/Amsit/stemma.gif
The Dukes of Gaeta (The Duchy from which the family took its name - Gaeta - Gaetani - Cajetani) had this: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/22/Coat_of_arms_of_the_House_of_Caetani.svg very simply coat. Doubt there's even need to make it
When the head of the family led an expedition to the Balearic Isles, though, the Pope hadded two golden poles on red field to that coat, making it like this: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/it/3/3a/Stemma.Gaetani.Pisa.jpg Again fairly simple but historically accurtate and perhaps a source of inspiration.
Finally, there is a family called Tolomei which has taken part in three crusades and has "earned" the three moons by doing so. http://estense.cedoc.mo.it/info/img/stemmiimg/001/001-0203.jpg I would assume, by the time of the mod, they either had none or only one? No idea exactly which crusades they partecipated to...
Again, hope this can give a little bit of inspiration to make players' banners, if anything!
The Cajetani family, for instance, had a number of different banners. Initially, before a convinient marriage merged them with a northern Italian lineage, they had two waves on yellow field as their banner http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/it/a/a7/Stemma_Caetani.PNG Eventually, after gaining connections in the north, their coat began a little more complex: http://web.tiscalinet.it/Amsit/stemma.gif
The Dukes of Gaeta (The Duchy from which the family took its name - Gaeta - Gaetani - Cajetani) had this: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/22/Coat_of_arms_of_the_House_of_Caetani.svg very simply coat. Doubt there's even need to make it
When the head of the family led an expedition to the Balearic Isles, though, the Pope hadded two golden poles on red field to that coat, making it like this: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/it/3/3a/Stemma.Gaetani.Pisa.jpg Again fairly simple but historically accurtate and perhaps a source of inspiration.Finally, there is a family called Tolomei which has taken part in three crusades and has "earned" the three moons by doing so. http://estense.cedoc.mo.it/info/img/stemmiimg/001/001-0203.jpg I would assume, by the time of the mod, they either had none or only one? No idea exactly which crusades they partecipated to...
Again, hope this can give a little bit of inspiration to make players' banners, if anything!
Udud
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quapitty said:
Thank you, if you can upload them somewhere and send me a link that would be much appreciated. Also, the Europe 1200 leaders have been very kind to me and granted me permission to use all their banners, other than the ones you are the author off but that is solved now I guess.
Therefore banners, or rather the lack thereof, is not a problem anymore. Thank you for the links GodHandApostole, but luckily I don't need to make a mess of myself trying to do banner textures anymore.
No problem.
Also, a tiny suggestion. Make swords, axes and maces (Weapons that were usually used with shields) like bastard swords, with both one-handed and two-handed option. Or at least swords. I think all knights simple used both hands if they ditched the shield.
Also, a tiny suggestion. Make swords, axes and maces (Weapons that were usually used with shields) like bastard swords, with both one-handed and two-handed option. Or at least swords. I think all knights simple used both hands if they ditched the shield.
Udud
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GodHandApostole said:
I kind of went the other way. I have removed all two handed swords and bastard swords. Using two hands for a small weapon is dangerous and impractical.
In the mean time, the recruitment script is almost done. It just needs a little bug fixing here and there. It fully supports summoning any fief any time (if available ofcause), you can summon all your fiefs at once, overlap, let some go earlier while other stays etc, having fiefs with different cultures summoned at the same time is not a problem either.
I also added a lot of OSP stuff. I found so many fitting items that I am going to throw another faction in the alpha release. I havn't decided if it should be Ireland or Wales yet. Pictures of English dudes:
Alpha can be expected this week.
Udud
Sergeant
The armors are nice indeed. Thanks for the support
Took a little screenshot of some extra info I added to the battle debrief, so you can keep track of how many men your diffrent fiefs have left when you have more than one fief summoned at a time.
You can always check in with a knight to see how things stand for him
Took a little screenshot of some extra info I added to the battle debrief, so you can keep track of how many men your diffrent fiefs have left when you have more than one fief summoned at a time.
You can always check in with a knight to see how things stand for him
What's up with the scale gauntlets?
Also, if you ever handled a sword, you'd know you always put your free hand on the pommel if you're not using a shield. It's just so much easier to control your swings that way. Not to mention they gain a little extra force. First time I swinged my one-hander it was almost blunt. It wouldn't go through the target normally. With two hands, it cut it clean, even being nearly like a club and whippy as hell
Also, if you ever handled a sword, you'd know you always put your free hand on the pommel if you're not using a shield. It's just so much easier to control your swings that way. Not to mention they gain a little extra force. First time I swinged my one-hander it was almost blunt. It wouldn't go through the target normally. With two hands, it cut it clean, even being nearly like a club and whippy as hell
Udud
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I already removed the scale gauntless, but just after I took the picture.
I have never swung a real sword, the closest I have come is those lame latex swords, and I always felt more exposed when I used both hands, but that's probably because I suck. Anyway as far as I know there is no historical basis for 2 handed swords in the 12th century.
I have never swung a real sword, the closest I have come is those lame latex swords, and I always felt more exposed when I used both hands, but that's probably because I suck. Anyway as far as I know there is no historical basis for 2 handed swords in the 12th century.
I'm not talking about 2-handers as much as using simple broad swords with both hands You can see an example here: http://www.oakeshott.org/home.html (I suck at researching images and linking them, but the site's homepage has an instance of what I mean)
You can see an example here: http://www.oakeshott.org/home.html (I suck at researching images and linking them, but the site's homepage has an instance of what I mean)
Udud
Sergeant
GodHandApostole said:I'm not talking about 2-handers as much as using simple broad swords with both hands
I can see what you mean. However historical accuracy is not the only issue. Turning regular swords into bastard swords may also give some speed issues that will overpower the use of those swords as 2 handed, so you will actually have incentive to ditch the shield as soon as you're in the fray.
MadVader said:
Thank you.
quapitty said:
No, I do not have access. As I started my own project I figured me having full access to the E1200 source code would not be the best of ideas. About the banners, my problem did not get solved entirely by my banner permission. The Scottish banners were not of the standard of the other banners of the mod, plus I am going to put in historical lords (thank you CK), and while some of the banners will apply to them, I doubt I will have a historical banner for everyone. If you are interested in making some historical banners I will provide references. Your banners look great I'd be lucky to have you helping me. For England and Scotland it probably be around 25 banners total I am going to need.
Yes, excessive realism sadly has a tendancy to screw with game balance. Also, surprise! http://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php/topic,223884.msg5562827.html#msg5562827
SirAgmund said:
Can you suggest a way that works with this game's mechanics to implement swords that work with both one and two hands, without making the two-handed option overpowered, then? It would be nice to have the option, at least. Usually, if your shield's handle breaks or it splinters, you'd want to bring your left hand to the pommel and focus on defending with your sword only.
Udud
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GodHandApostole said:
It's not coming up with how its done that is hard. The way I'd go is to make a trigger that checks if the player has a shield or not, and then change the weapon based on it. But that requires time, and currently I am a one man team, except for banners which quapitty now have offered to help me with, thank you very much. All my time is devoted to the scripting of the recruitment where I have found a bug that annoys the living sh*t out of me because I have been unsuccessful in fixing it so far, I'll come around to it though. Also things like how to apply the script to the AI intelligently is giving me some troubles so I might have to postpone the alpha release 2-3 days, currently I'm planning on using all Sunday to work on the mod, so I am aiming for a release Monday.
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