omg thats another table that didnt update. I was working off week 5 - will sort that now
I totally agree.I stated in previous posts that the BEAST Staff is encouraging teams to disband by letting new teams take spots in higher divisions.I did ask the staff to do it for my team in the past and it's not my place to say it, but still players are changing clans like crazy when their team starts to get destroyed and cannot achieve the planned success.Having every single new team start at the very bottom should prevent teams from disbanding lightly.
Added to this, more strict rules about claiming a previous season slot should also help teams disband less (for example having at least 6 players from the previous season's roster in the new roster to be able to claim the same slot, or simply having the exact same name -like it's done in most sports leagues-).
Then just slide every team up, keeping the end season ranking's sequence, to fill the gaps created by disbanded teams. And have the new teams meet each other in ranking matches if there are too many to fit in the last division (and put the lowest in one or more newly created divisions).
If it takes more than a year to climb up to div A for a new team, decisions about disbanding will be taken more seriously.
If you want to make the climbing faster, create parallel divisions for the lowest ones (for example div F-1 and div F-2, which are at the same "level" but teams don't play each other, a where the winners both get promoted to div E for example...). You can have as many parallel divisons as you like, but it must respect a kind of "pyramid" to make promotions possible (if you have 4 divisions F, you can't reasonably promote the 4 winners to one single division E of 6 teams...).
In real sports it takes decades for a club to climb (or even reclimb in a case of bankruptcy for example) to the top, if ever (except in closed leagues where there is a fixed number of slots, and slots are sold and bought by the franchises with authorization of the managing organization, but that is out of question when there is no money involved).
PS: I also agree that the matchmaking system was totally unfair this season in div D. But with the new division system, I suppose the problem will disappear, since every team should be able to meet all the others of the same division once (only 5 matches).
Well strict rules are better anyway instead of we will do anything we want "if we feel we need to".
Some kind of entry-promotion matches can be implemented. Like if you want to enter some division, u need to fight with penultimate team of that division of current tournament.
If you lose, new team go to F division directly (so that new team choose accurately which division to try to enter).
I strongly believe any variant of strict rule (same for all teams) is better, than customized individual solutions, which destroys the value of places in divisions, and destroys the atmosphere, where you have to earn your place. Instead we getting disbelief in the administration, and suspicions of nepotism , etc.
So the rules should be same for all in fair tournament, not "more same" for some teams, which administration decides are better then others. =)
IMHO ofc. I m not gonna argue further, but wanted to speak out.
In any case, big respects to admins of this great tourney.
Last remark, at least consider such variant - that div A spots never can be given in any way, only deserved by earning 1st place in div B and winning promotion match (or without promotion match if A team disbanded).
And if both conditions done, team B1 hasn't choice to deny. (lose some of your tourney matches or promotion match if you don't want to move higher, its simple right)
Well strict rules are better anyway instead of we will do anything we want "if we feel we need to".
Some kind of entry-promotion matches can be implemented. Like if you want to enter some division, u need to fight with penultimate team of that division of current tournament.
If you lose, new team go to F division directly (so that new team choose accurately which division to try to enter).
I just realized IPL outclassed RM2 too. Regardless of that i wish you good luck and success in Division E.The next BEAST edition will simply verify whether we made progress and we belong to that division or not. If we will be stomped then well, we will drop down and someone else will take our place. And then we will make attempts to climb back again. But for now, we will do our best to put up a fight against anyone we will have to face and use this opportunity to gain experience.
wait what?our tourney admins are paid a lot less for their work
wait what?
I am still owed pay for the last 4 tourneys then.
@Callum where do I need to send my bank information
It's pretty silly to pretend we can't use our judgement and experience to determine the place of some teams in some circumstances. If Div A teams disband and reform with similar players, it's a complete waste of time to force them into Div D (or E, F, whatever) where new teams will face them and be stomped. And we know this is extremely common from both Warband and BL. You're right that being strict would encourage some teams to stay together, but I'd argue this also hurts the competitivity as well, since teams that are not successful and need fresh players/synergy will be not be incentivised to look for new opportunities.
This is a small scene and we all play for fun. If this was a regular for-money league with real jobs and livelihoods on the line then sure, and in general I think we should be pretty strict - we were perfectly happy to be put in the lowest division this time around despite being one of the most successful teams in MnB, due to little BL experience - but enforcing a zero-exceptions rule is too inflexible.
There's also plenty of loopholes e.g. just keeping the same team name but completely changing the roster, then requesting a name change. etc.
Without round robin it's inevitable that the arbitrary cut off point in a league is going to create some inaccuracies, another week of matches would fix those but create a few more, and so on until everyone played each other. You shouldn't look at Div D as an exact ranking of performance, but a competition for the top 2 spots where everyone at the top of the league had the hardest matches.I just realized IPL outclassed RM2 too. Regardless of that i wish you good luck and success in Division E.