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Untitled. said:
trueten said:
F*ck, again. Russian military trucks moving from Crimean city Sevastopol (their military base) to Yalta (doesn't suppose to have their military bases):
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What are they saying in the video?
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Looks like the Russians are telling them "You cannot video tape the inside of this compound" at the end. Bit suspicious.
 
That compound is a "Military Sanatorium" owned and operated by Russia's Black Sea Fleet - the name loses a lot in translation, it's more of a hotel and resort than a hospital. The troops have the right to be there... the mystery is why.
 
Dodes said:
Yes, a faction of the protesters are fascists and Neo-Nazis, which has been used to discredit the entire civil disobedience, especially by pro-national Russian press.
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Still video footage is real.
But it's understandable that extremist scum thrives in times of civil unrest and chaos. I will only start worrying if they ever make it into the Parliament.
 
Well, the move could be entirely innocent - just a precaution to prevent looting or vandalism. I would be more worried if Russians suddenly throw a training exercise and move the 20th Guards Army nearer from Voronezh. I would start stockpiling food and ammo if the 76th Air Assault Division joins them. Because that's how the 2008 Georgian war started - organize a training exercise for the nearest army, so they can get their **** together and no-one wonders why live ammo is handed out. Have the most elite unit of the army to play the OPFOR. Whoops, our exercise turned into an invasion, I mean, restrained response to Georgian aggression.

Anthropod, we can go over that fun gun control discussion in the relevant thread:
http://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php/topic,22614.375.html

Yes, I know it's from 2007 but it at least has the proper name. Every other discussion on this has derailed a thread dedicated to something else.
 
Fair? Maybe not, but it effectively bans the man from re-entering Ukraine, which I do find fair. Yanukovych has no business ever returning to Ukraine.
 
What I find particularly ironic about protests in Crimea is that in an unlikely event of secession and merging with Russia that would have been like their last anti-government protest ever.
 
rebelsquirrell said:
Is that really fair? (I haven't followed the events closely)

I thought both sides were aggressive against each other.
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They found the organisational stuff for how he planned to deal with the Maidan thing, so... yeah.
It comes down to:
Circle them in with 20k police, then start shooting with 1000 "sharpshooters". Stop shooting when everybody stopped twitching.

There's a chance these are made up documents of course, but given what he actually did do...
 
Si-A-erra. said:
Sounds like pure bull****. 1k sharpshooters? na nah bro.
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Uh, anyone with a rifle and some training could be called a sharpshooter. And the protestors found a lot of documents in the Presidential palace, that had been throw in the river, which they have been drying and deciphering.

The plan to send him to Hague is a good one, as Weaver earlier said. It's the best place to ensure he gets a fair trial and that there's no credible "Yanukovich the Martyr" movement.

Weaver said:
What I find particularly ironic about protests in Crimea is that in an unlikely event of secession and merging with Russia that would have been like their last anti-government protest ever.
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Indeed. Sad but funny.
 
Jhessail said:
The plan to send him to Hague is a good one, as Weaver earlier said. It's the best place to ensure he gets a fair trial and that there's no credible "Yanukovich the Martyr" movement.
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That won't stop the Martyr thing. It'll be "poor, poor Yanukovich" being unfairly judged by a foreign power no matter what.
Facts won't matter.

But yeah, probably the best bet in any case.
 
Jhessail said:
Well, the move could be entirely innocent - just a precaution to prevent looting or vandalism. I would be more worried if Russians suddenly throw a training exercise and move the 20th Guards Army nearer from Voronezh. I would start stockpiling food and ammo if the 76th Air Assault Division joins them. Because that's how the 2008 Georgian war started - organize a training exercise for the nearest army, so they can get their **** together and no-one wonders why live ammo is handed out. Have the most elite unit of the army to play the OPFOR. Whoops, our exercise turned into an invasion, I mean, restrained response to Georgian aggression.

Anthropod, we can go over that fun gun control discussion in the relevant thread:
http://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php/topic,22614.375.html

Yes, I know it's from 2007 but it at least has the proper name. Every other discussion on this has derailed a thread dedicated to something else.
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****, I just read that Putin has ordered an immediate military exercise near the Ukrainian border! :eek: 
Georiga v2 with Novorossiya, anyone?
 
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