Scottish Independence

[rebelknight]

I won't dignify that question with a response.

(This post doesn't count)

I believe your claim is outdated.

 

[Mage246]

[me=Mage246]sighs[/me]

 

[Kobrag]

Rabble...I believe he was joking. -.-

 

[rebelknight]

And you believe I was completely serious too? 
Glad to see Mage still being condescending as usual.

 

[Mad Vader]

I'm sad to see the Scottish succumb to a basically tribalist influence, but if the UK goes out of the EU (which is my hope) the Scots could play a positive role in rebuking the Anglos for their tabloid/islander provincialism, and show them a better way.

 

[dan1993uk]

I'm sad to see the Scottish succumb to a basically tribalist influence, but if the UK goes out of the EU (which is my hope) the Scots could play a positive role in rebuking the Anglos for their tabloid/islander provincialism, and show them a better way.

Why would you hope the UK leaves the EU, its one of the EUs largest contributors and one of the few countries that actually puts more money into the EU's treasury than it takes out. I think by the time a referendum comes to the UK people will have forgot about the EU's problems and wont want out anymore anyways.

 

[Wolfang]

I remember how Nigel Farage said several times that Belgium was a non-country because the north didn't want to be part of Belgium.

Hurr Durr.

 

[Catholic]

I'm sad to see the Scottish succumb to a basically tribalist influence, but if the UK goes out of the EU (which is my hope) the Scots could play a positive role in rebuking the Anglos for their tabloid/islander provincialism, and show them a better way.

Why would you hope the UK leaves the EU, its one of the EUs largest contributors and one of the few countries that actually puts more money into the EU's treasury than it takes out. I think by the time a referendum comes to the UK people will have forgot about the EU's problems and wont want out anymore anyways.

Isn't that literally what David Cameron thought when he granted the Scots a referendum?

 

[Lord Burgess1]

will weapons laws change in any significant way?

Hell no. The Dunblane School Massacre is why handguns were banned. An independent Scotland would only be a more Socialist country than GB already is so if any change would only make it harder to get a shotgun license or something akin to that.

 

[Austupaio]

Well, that's what I was curious about. Making it harder would still be change.

 

[Lord Burgess1]

Sorry that was a bit short of me, about 10 minutes earlier I'd read a comment on reddit by an American who was excited for Scottish Independence because his ancestral brothers would get their gun rights back.

 

[AWdeV]

"back".

Confirmed for "Muh God-given guns" Amurican.

 

[Sir Saladin]

Sorry that was a bit short of me, about 10 minutes earlier I'd read a comment on reddit by an American who was excited for Scottish Independence because his ancestral brothers would get their gun rights back.

It's annoying that anyone would think Scotland's gun laws are an important top priority issue for Scotsmen to consider when they vote for or against this thing. 

Being able to legally shoot at beer cans or hunt for mourning doves using a machine gun isn't the only definition of the word "independence" but not everyone knows that.

Fondle and caress those precious guns while you can my fellow Americans, Obama is coming to take them all away!

 

[Austupaio]

Sorry that was a bit short of me, about 10 minutes earlier I'd read a comment on reddit by an American who was excited for Scottish Independence because his ancestral brothers would get their gun rights back.

It's all good. I wasn't implying anything like that, I was just curious about the crime and police side of the issue.

 

[An Irish Noob]

Living in the North of Ireland, nationalism is something I know very much about. I also know the great trouble it can cause. Statistics like 48% say yes and 42% say no may seem fine to politicians but to me it says that half the population will be less than enthused about the result and that you're going to upset a whole lot of people. Personally, I'm just rather troubled about how an independent Scotland may poke at the fires here and usually a spark turns into a blaze where I live.

However, i'm not Scottish, and I think my cousins across the narrow sea deserve to make up their own mind. There won't be any deep divide between Scotland and the United Kingdom because the culture and history is so intertwined that Angles and Scots are fond of each other anyway. It could essentially be as warm as the friendship between Britain and America, or Britain and Ireland, for example.

I've just never been a fan of making huge decisions with only half of the people supporting you.

 

[Harkon Haakonson]

You must hate every single Presidential / Prime Minister election ever then.

 

[An Irish Noob]

Presidents and Prime Minister's have their limits however and like David Cameron said a few days ago, this isn't a General Election. It's much bigger.

It's risky and dangerous to have such a small majority in favour of such a massive change.

If it goes ahead, hopefully most people who opposed the idea adjust and get on with things. Scotland forevverrr and all that

But by God, the UK flag will be bloody ugly.

 

[Harkon Haakonson]

You're overreacting. Just because people vote "No" doesn't mean they'be truly opposed if Scotland was independent, they likely wouldn't mind, they just don't think it's wise or have other reservations such as not knowing if it's indeed the right move, status quo being the option with least probability of bad things happening, that sort of worried conservative attitude that doesn't make them feel comfortable voting as Yes. But it's not a passionate "No, never, it's a horrible choice and I couldn't live like that!" sort of thing, people will accept it. Let's face it, everyone likes their patriotic independence, and even those voting No, as I said, might even want it deep down, they just don't feel safe as they think it can backfire, but would roll with it.

 

[PoisonCourtesan]

But by God, the UK flag will be bloody ugly.

Incorporate Welsh dragon, problem fixed.

 

[Vermillion_Hawk]

You're overreacting. Just because people vote "No" doesn't mean they'be truly opposed if Scotland was independent, they likely wouldn't mind, they just don't think it's wise or have other reservations such as not knowing if it's indeed the right move, status quo being the option with least probability of bad things happening, that sort of worried conservative attitude that doesn't make them feel comfortable voting as Yes. But it's not a passionate "No, never, it's a horrible choice and I couldn't live like that!" sort of thing, people will accept it. Let's face it, everyone likes their patriotic independence, and even those voting No, as I said, might even want it deep down, they just don't feel safe as they think it can backfire, but would roll with it.

Only time will tell but I can say from my experience that there were definitely people who were emphatically voting "Non" and threatening to leave if the vote passed in the Quebec referendum over here. That's a bit of a different case since there were two (three really) very different cultural groups in play there but one could say the same about culturally English or immigrant people living in Scotland right now in response to all the nationalism and patriotism being bandied about. I haven't been following this as closely as maybe I should have given our own domestic politics in Canada but I can say that the whole nationalism thing can be very, very polarizing during a referendum like this and can in fact result in many emphatic "No" votes. Scotland isn't made up of just "Scottish" people.