Russian principalities

[pan-boroda]

hmm, no, Cannon became the emblem of Smolensk much later. That flag and the banner that I found Smolensk troops used at Grunwald. In addition, virtually all sources say that the arms of the Principality of Polotsk was the emblem of "Pogon'": the image of a person facing the enemy, the god-warrior-Yarily Yarovita riding a white horse, with a punishing sword - in his right hand and a shield with a gold six-pointed cross - in his left hand. Six-pointed cross is better known as "cross Yarily. In the future a little bit modified verssiya became the emblem of the Grand Duchy of Lithuania. In general, I will begin to spread the principality, and you'll see.

 

[Cèsar de Quart]

I thought these were the arms of Polotsk:

 

[pan-boroda]

it just it, that Polotsk several coats of arms. This coat I've ever met when referring to 11-12 century. Though why not chase more inherent yet Litvin as far as I know me.

 

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something does not work, I attach a picture .... And princely coats of arms are?

 

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http://radikal.ru/F/s42.radikal.ru/i095/0812/fa/db419ddba52e.jpg.html

look may be useful

 

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I then set out why you coat everywhere shown as arms of the city of Orsha

 

[FrisianDude]

Argh, sorry for going off topic, but we totally need a topic were we can talk EU3.

There is one in the Other Games section: here.

 

[Cèsar de Quart]

something does not work, I attach a picture .... And princely coats of arms are?

Again, click on the small gioconda icon:

And then place the adress of the image between the two IMG signs. Like this:

 

[pan-boroda]

Well this is my link. By the way it has a number of flags of the Russian principalities. 1) 2 number 1 picture to the left - a variant of the emblem of the Kiеv principality. 2) 2 series of 3 images to the left - Galicia-Volyn. 3) 2 series of 3 images to the left - Chernigov principality, 4) 2 series 2 image on the right - Novgorod
Moreover, there are at a historical roots of 2 flags left in the first row (seemingly Spas Vsederzhatel) and the second flag on the right in 3 series (very similar to the version of tamgi Rurik, was used in Kiev.)
For the rest of honest doubt. I certainly do not armourist, but Ryazan most ancient coat of arms - the horse. In Suzdal - turning a falcon with wings upraised. Smolensk - a white cross on a red background (1 of the oldest mentioned options)

 

[pan-boroda]

In the "Chronicle of Constance Cathedral in 1413, " posted the exact same image, from which it was reprinted by Marc Ambrosius. In the "Chronicle", published in Augsburg in 1536, has an inscription indicating that the coat of arms that belonged to Prince Theodore of Smolensk, the son of George Sviatoslavovich.

 

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Probable coat of arms of the Principality of Turov

The coat of arms of the ancient Turov warrior dressed in clothes ancient Slavonic warrior, the bow, a quiver of arrows over their shoulders. Seeking the best option armorial bearings gave unique stone bas-relief of XII-XIII centuries. with the image of an arrow, found in Turov church with arrowheads and bow detail.

 

[pan-boroda]

Cèsar de Quart, that I was confused with that heraldry. Now I have doubts and in the arms of Ryazan, and Polotsk and Smolensk, and Kiev and Novgorod. And even the Grand Duchy of Vladimir in doubt. Damn, so many experts, damn it, some say one thing, some another. Some chronicles one in each other ...

 

[pan-boroda]

Print Polotsk prince Gleb. About 1330 years.
This is absolutely Pogon'

 

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Print Ryazan principality

 

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Coat of Arms of the Vladimir principality

 

[Cruger]

That's some extremely impressive stuff. A nice suprise to suddenly have the expert researcher for Russia we needed

 

[pan-boroda]

Alas, I am not an expert. Just if you do something, you have to do in detail until the end.
Plus, until the holiday is the time to do

 

[pan-boroda]

So here's what happened. Criticism is accepted but not encouraged

 

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Northeast Russia - Vladimir grand duchy

- Vladimir

- Suzdal

- Rostov

- Yaroslavl (without a crown)

- Beloozero

- In addition, the banners have been distributed with the face of Vladimir Mother of God

Vsevolod the Big Nest Yurevich - Grand Duke of Vladimir
Years of life: 1154 - 1212
Vladimir: 1176 - 1212 
Wives: [1] Maria Shvarnovna Czech, [2] Lubov Vasilkovna Vitebsk
Sons: [1] Constantine, Boris (†118, Gleb (†1189), Yuri, Yaroslav, Vladimir, Sviatoslav, Ivan
Daughters: [1] Sbyslava, Vseslava, Verhuslava (wife of Rostislav Rurikovich KIev), Elena

Vassals:
1) Constantine Vsevolodovich (son) (fief - Rostov), wife - daughter of Mstislav of Smolensk
2) Yuri Vsevolodovich (son) (Fief - Suzdal)
3) Vladimir Vsevolodovich (son) (fief -Yuriev, Moscow)
4) Ivan Vsevolodovich (son) (fief -Starodub)
5) Tysyatsky Mikhail Borisovich
6) Boyar Yakim Kuchkovich
7) Boyar Vojislav Dobrynich
Boyar Moses Butovich (Rostov 1176)
9) Boyar Boris Zhidislavovich (to 1200 is likely dead, but left his mark as a well-known boyar and Governor)
10) Boyar Yarun Vasilievich
11) Boyar Fedor Yarunovich
12) Boyar Matthew Shibutovich
13) Boyar Andrei Stanislavovich
14) Voevoda Aleksandar Popovic (prototype of the warrior Alesha Popovich)
15) Voevoda Foma Lyaskovich (Beloozero)
16) Voevoda Dorozhay
17) Voevoda Peter Osledyukovich
1 Voevoda Eremey Glebovich
19) Voevoda Nefed Dykun
20) Voevoda Yuryatya
21) Voevoda Ratibor
22) Voevoda Ieva Popovich

Cities
Vladimir (villages - Detinech. Nezhatino)
Rostov (villages - Bohtug)
Suzdal (villages - Kideksha, Suhodol)
Yaroslavl (villages - Mologa, Novlenskoe, Sol Velikaya)
Beloozero (villages - Beloe, Erga).

Fortress
Bogolubovo (village - Dobrynskoe)
Starodub (villages - Palekh, Ryapolovo, Golibesovo, Rozdestvenskoe)
Sugore (villages - Kargolom, Kem, Sheleshpan)
Ugliche Pole (villages - Ilinskoe, Otradniy)
Ksnyatin (villages -Kapshino, Porech'e)
Pereslavl (villages - Kleshin, Talitsy)
Yuriev -Polskiy (village - Sima)
Moscow (villages - Kuchkovo, Nezhitino)
Zvenigorod (village - Ruza, Storozhi)
Kostroma (villages - Kuzmishi, Nikolskoe)
Nerehta (village - Lavrovo)
Dmitrov (villages - Iksha, Rogachevo)
Galich-Merck  (villages - Kostomskoe, Loparevo)
Unja (village - Nezhitino)
Tver (villages - Shosha, Dubna)
Gorokhovets (village - Meshchersky)
Ustug (village - Gleden)
Gorodets Radilov (village - non)
Zubtsov (village - non)
Kashin (village - Barykovo)

 

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The Grand Duchy of Kiev

- family coat of Rurik. the symbol for Kiev and in my acceptable

Rurik Rostislavich, Grand Prince of Kiev
Years of life - 1214
Kiev: 1173, 1180 - 1182, 1194 - 1202, 1203-1204, 1205 - 1206, 1206 - 1207, 1207 - 1210
Father: Rostislav Mstislavich
Wives: [1] daughter Beluka, Polovtsian Khan, [2] Anna Y. Turovskaya
Sons: [2] Rostislav, Vladimir
Daughters: Predslava, Anastasia, Yaroslav Vseslav

Vassals:
1) Rostislav Rurikovich (son), fief - Torchesk, Bragin (wife: Verhuslava Vsevolodovna Vladimir-Suzdal, daughter: Euphemia).
2) Vladimir Rurikovich (son)
3) Mstislav Mstislavich Udaloy, fief Tripolie (wife: daughter Polovtsian Khan Kotyan, daughters: Anna, Maria (Elena), Rostislava)
4) Basil Mstislavovich, son of Mstislav Mstislavich
5) Mstsilav Mstislavovich, son of Mstislav Mstislavich
6) Yuri Mstislavovich, son of Mstislav Mstislavich
7) Yaroslav Vladimirovich, fief - Vyshgorod
Svyatoslav Yaroslavich, son of Yaroslav Vladimirovich
9) Mstislav Vladimirovich, fief - Kanev
10) Rostislav Vladimirovich (fief - Trepol)
11) Gleb Svyatoslavich, fief - Belgorod-Kiev
11) Tysyatsky Peter Vorislavich
12) Tysyatsky Radilo Mstislavovich
13) Boyar Simeon Vorislavich
14) Boyar Raguylo Dobrynich
15) Boyar Michael
16) Boyar Vasil Nastasich
17) Boyar Zavid Yurievich
1 Boyar Vasil Volkovich
19) Boyar Davyd Borynich
20) Boyar Constantine Hotovich

Cities
Kiev  (villages - Vydubychi, Peresechena, Lyutizh)
Kanev (village - Roden, Mezhyrich, Chernishi)
Torchesk (Olshanitsa, Sharki) - center of black klobuks

Fortress
Vyshgorod (villages - Belichi)
Zvenigorod-Kiev (villages - Savvino, Ershovo)
Vitichev (villages - Poretskovo, Stayki)
Trepol (village - Bobrytsya)
Yurev-Kiev (village - Uzenitsya)
Vruchen (village - Nahoriany, Koptevschizna, Chernobl)
Bragin (village -Petritsky)
Boguslavl (Borodani, Olkhovets)
Iskorosten (villages - Meleni, Hotinovka)
Korsun (villages - Brovahi, Kvitky, Moryntsi)
Gorodesk (village - Red Mountain)
Michesk (villages - Oleshpol, Vyshevich)
Mezhibozhee (village - Letichev)
Zvizden (villages - Mininy, Stryzhavki)
Zarub (village - Tserkovschina)
Kotelnitsa (village - Yaropolch)