ironpants said:
F-Boisier said:
I just think that the higher difficulty level you choose the poorer Khergits are. They need some balance versus other full top tier armies as we have in the current iteration of the game. I suppose they'd need some love. In SP they have a hard time while in MP they shine a lot.
Yes, the Khergit faction needs a rework. One problem is the loss of their skirmishing AI; archers should not be using their melee weapons by default! The bigger problem is their troop composition. Logically, they should end up at the top end with something like two light (skirmishers/archers) and two heavy (lancers/nobles) cavalry types in order to widen their possible skill and equipment set. Why are there archers without bows? Separate them out with better throwing skill. Why are there no real elite (high level) units? Surely some would be rich and successful enough to have a wider variety of good equipment like horse armor or a heavy saber.
Agreed. I have no idea what happened, but since the patch, everyone is running around with top tiers and my steamrolling no longer works - except against Nords in open field. One mamluke during a battle managed to lure 7 or so of my lancers away from the main fight and somehow kill/dehorse 4 of them while I was chasing him down to free up my men. His horse just won't go down, lancers though with coursers... pffft.
The skirmishing AI still gets stuck at the edges of the map too. Khergit Lancers still use their bows instead of lances sometimes, Khergit Horse Archers sometimes don't even have a bow, and too many times play hero charging in alone against a dense formation of infantry. For the most part, the AI is the culprit, but it's going to take too long for them to rework the AI system.
My opinion -> unless skirmish AI can be fixed, lower the rate of enemies with top tiers, but if all other options fail, go heavy!
Now if Khergit faction is based on strictly nomadic steppe people. Heavy cavalry armored down to the horse became quite common since 13th century thanks to influence from sedentary cultures, first lamellar then other materials.
Heck even the Vaegir faction seems more like the historical Kipchak Khanate (or in Western texts -> "Golden Horde") then the Khergit Khanate. Kipchak Khanate weaponry and armor ->
Prior to the establishment of the Khanate however, much more unique style. But also well-armored.
Also notice the hooked lance? I want that ingame too!
Add new troop-types, and we're back in business.
... and yeah, not to mention my Khergit Elite Armor looks so horrid in my eyes with the rest of my gear I've ended up having to mod the game myself to save my eyesight!