Occupy Wall Street
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Omeene
Master Knight
A few Mainstream media stations picked it up last night, after a large number of arrests. I like the idea, and I believe most people would agree with their base goal of punishing "Wall Street", but I doubt it will change anything. I fear that any political movement will lose steam and just dissipate quickly.
I doubt there will be a lot of MS media coverage, because its not that interesting of a protest. Its not like a fringe movement, where its controversial. Controversy draws viewers, "People camped in New York" does not.
I doubt there will be a lot of MS media coverage, because its not that interesting of a protest. Its not like a fringe movement, where its controversial. Controversy draws viewers, "People camped in New York" does not.
Omeene
Master Knight
It is an occupation of Wall Street, which is in its ninth day. It was organized by Adbusters and it is meant to call for punishments against Wall Street bankers, who they feel unfairly profited from the economic downturn at the cost of the normal people. There are several hundred protesters in tents near or on Wall Street.
Police presence gets heavier daily, and more arrests every day. No major reports of violence or crude behavior.
Police presence gets heavier daily, and more arrests every day. No major reports of violence or crude behavior.
Familyguy1
Sergeant Knight
Sounds like a bunch of hippies and hipsters....if they want to get taken seriously, get an actual movement going on.
Yeah, man. Hippies never actually did anything.
And therein lies why the protest will go nowhere.Omeene said:
BattleOfValmy
We need a revolution.
SwadianCommander
Banned
BattleOfValmy said:
BattleOfValmy
I am, as long as it's a Red October.
Devercia said:
The vitriol in the comments section is disgusting.
Well i'm not sure why a couple hundred spoiled kids living off trust funds (ironically provided by Capitalist parents in all likelyhood) without any sense of real life experience, peppered with a few Starbucks hippies with failed Communist aspirations, and V for Vendetta fanboys really merit coverage to begin with.
Not that they actually aren't getting coverage anyways, since their partisans sponsors are all over it such as MSNBC, Al Gore channel to name a few..
And not that whether they are violent or not is really even an issue in itself. It's ****ing moot. The only thing important being the purpose of the action.
Anyways I got this "covered":
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjJ9nEi6Qdw&feature=share
3:05 in - "90% I think thats what the wealthy should be paying in taxes". GTFO, that doesn't even make any sense. If 90% is being paid, there isn't anything left to invest in big enterprise which would then provide jobs. Of course here he is implying that the 90% would be passed on to the government, and they would somehow provide the jobs.
Casting the failure of government to properly function a profitable job a la Post Office aside, and disregarding the economic philosophies of Communist or Socialist ideals, does it not occur in the thought process that anyone paying 90% taxes will no longer be resident?
Now on more to the premise of the assembly -
1:05 - "Bankers and Hedgefunders are getting multimillion dollar bonuses with money we bailed them out with just a few years ago". Also thereabouts 1:05 theres a nice shot of a chick with some decent meat hangers I noticed.
So the jist is that its about anger towards the profiteering of Walstreet on account of the bailout by taxpayers, and a general resentment towards percieved Capitalistic responsibilities in said roll, which is obvious by the notable anti-Capitalist signs and rhetoric etc.
Lets get one thing right the **** out of the way - The United States has not been anything resembling Capitalist for quite some time.
Banks are not bailed out by a government in a purely Capitalist society, nor are automotive industries. There is no safety net in Capitalism to be provided by the state for the benefit of a private body, for then the definition of Capitalism is no longer relevant; an economic system in which the means of production are privately owned and operated for profit as then the body is no longer private, in that the state is intermingled. In pure Capitalism the private body succeeds or fails on it's own merit. It is Darwinism at it's purest.
This process of Evolution that is fundamental to Capitalism was denied to us by the involvement of the State throughout the course of the bailouts. The irony in all of it being a bunch of college 'educated' kids taking a week off from working at the Gap to wield anti-Capitalist signs.
No, what's in the U.S. today is more relative to Corporatism, or more specifically Tripartism.
The resentment towards those that profiteered, at the expense of the taxpayers is understandable. However the deployment to Walstreet was a poor decision. It doesn't make any sense for the fact that the buisnesses were recipients, not providers. What would happen with subsequent scenarios of bailouts and profiteering? these kids going to chase around all of those buisnesses too?
Jesus, How about going to the source provider; the drug dealer.. Washington D.C. and staging protests there about the intermingling of government and corporation that has been responsible for what's occured. Or would that be viewed as racist if it occured outside the Whitehouse, or just be labelled another Tea Party movement? What a ****ing circus show going on in the States right now.
"Days of Rage" they call it. Common sense is most often a casualty of rage and belligerence, so I think it's appropriate.
Roseanne showing up I think hurt the notion, as she was more about wanting somewhere to vent about her latest show being cancelled. Then there was Michael Moore making the usual hypocritical comments on the class warfare mantra of the movement. What a ****ing joke this one, "The smart rich know they can only build the gate so high” speaking from a position of wealth and priviledge of course.
Someone needs to storm his gated community walls and slap that Big Mac out of his hands.
Pretty much all there is to be gleened out of the video. That, and the fact that the bull outside of Merrill Lynch has a pair of golden testicles... 1:42 in.
Not that they actually aren't getting coverage anyways, since their partisans sponsors are all over it such as MSNBC, Al Gore channel to name a few..
And not that whether they are violent or not is really even an issue in itself. It's ****ing moot. The only thing important being the purpose of the action.
Anyways I got this "covered":
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjJ9nEi6Qdw&feature=share
3:05 in - "90% I think thats what the wealthy should be paying in taxes". GTFO, that doesn't even make any sense. If 90% is being paid, there isn't anything left to invest in big enterprise which would then provide jobs. Of course here he is implying that the 90% would be passed on to the government, and they would somehow provide the jobs.
Casting the failure of government to properly function a profitable job a la Post Office aside, and disregarding the economic philosophies of Communist or Socialist ideals, does it not occur in the thought process that anyone paying 90% taxes will no longer be resident?
Now on more to the premise of the assembly -
1:05 - "Bankers and Hedgefunders are getting multimillion dollar bonuses with money we bailed them out with just a few years ago". Also thereabouts 1:05 theres a nice shot of a chick with some decent meat hangers I noticed.
So the jist is that its about anger towards the profiteering of Walstreet on account of the bailout by taxpayers, and a general resentment towards percieved Capitalistic responsibilities in said roll, which is obvious by the notable anti-Capitalist signs and rhetoric etc.
Lets get one thing right the **** out of the way - The United States has not been anything resembling Capitalist for quite some time.
Banks are not bailed out by a government in a purely Capitalist society, nor are automotive industries. There is no safety net in Capitalism to be provided by the state for the benefit of a private body, for then the definition of Capitalism is no longer relevant; an economic system in which the means of production are privately owned and operated for profit as then the body is no longer private, in that the state is intermingled. In pure Capitalism the private body succeeds or fails on it's own merit. It is Darwinism at it's purest.
This process of Evolution that is fundamental to Capitalism was denied to us by the involvement of the State throughout the course of the bailouts. The irony in all of it being a bunch of college 'educated' kids taking a week off from working at the Gap to wield anti-Capitalist signs.
No, what's in the U.S. today is more relative to Corporatism, or more specifically Tripartism.
The resentment towards those that profiteered, at the expense of the taxpayers is understandable. However the deployment to Walstreet was a poor decision. It doesn't make any sense for the fact that the buisnesses were recipients, not providers. What would happen with subsequent scenarios of bailouts and profiteering? these kids going to chase around all of those buisnesses too?
Jesus, How about going to the source provider; the drug dealer.. Washington D.C. and staging protests there about the intermingling of government and corporation that has been responsible for what's occured. Or would that be viewed as racist if it occured outside the Whitehouse, or just be labelled another Tea Party movement? What a ****ing circus show going on in the States right now.
"Days of Rage" they call it. Common sense is most often a casualty of rage and belligerence, so I think it's appropriate.
Roseanne showing up I think hurt the notion, as she was more about wanting somewhere to vent about her latest show being cancelled. Then there was Michael Moore making the usual hypocritical comments on the class warfare mantra of the movement. What a ****ing joke this one, "The smart rich know they can only build the gate so high” speaking from a position of wealth and priviledge of course.
Someone needs to storm his gated community walls and slap that Big Mac out of his hands.
Pretty much all there is to be gleened out of the video. That, and the fact that the bull outside of Merrill Lynch has a pair of golden testicles... 1:42 in.
BattleOfValmy
ealabor said:
That's when I realized it must be a joke post.
BattleOfValmy
ealabor said:
Keep on generalizing and ad-hominem-ing, it really works for you.
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