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i had the same problem with insane levellign up at the beginning of the game (starting at lvl 25 etc.).
Did you add any new factions?
Did you add any new factions?
FrisianDude
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I want to make a character in a tavern tell random stories and jokes, but can anyone explain how to do it? I think it might be a bit like how villagers tell the character random rumors?
MartinF
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What I would do is write up all the stories and jokes and what not.
Then for each dialog item, you have a condition field, right? This is where you can decide when the dialog is shown, and when it is not.
At the opening dialog, you do a (store_random_in_range, "$g_decide_dialog" ,1 , x) with x being the number of items you have.
Then in the conditions field for each dialog option, you put (eq, "$g_decide_dialog", 1) for the first one, (eq, $g_decide_dialog, 2) for the second one, and so on. That way when the player talks to the character, depending on which number was stored in the global variable by the store_random_in_range, the corresponding story or joke would come out.
Then for each dialog item, you have a condition field, right? This is where you can decide when the dialog is shown, and when it is not.
At the opening dialog, you do a (store_random_in_range, "$g_decide_dialog" ,1 , x) with x being the number of items you have.
Then in the conditions field for each dialog option, you put (eq, "$g_decide_dialog", 1) for the first one, (eq, $g_decide_dialog, 2) for the second one, and so on. That way when the player talks to the character, depending on which number was stored in the global variable by the store_random_in_range, the corresponding story or joke would come out.
FrisianDude
Archduke
MartinF said:
I'm not entirely sure what you mean with a condition field?
MartinF
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FrisianDude said:
When in doubt, check the top of the py file in question, it explains what the different parts of the tuple are for.
In this case let's take the example of ramun the slave trader.
Code:
[trp_ramun_the_slave_trader, "start", [
(troop_slot_eq, "$g_talk_troop", slot_troop_met_previously, 0),
], "Good day to you, {young man/lassie}.", "ramun_introduce_1",[]],
[trp_ramun_the_slave_trader|plyr, "ramun_introduce_1", [], "Forgive me, you look like a trader, but I see none of your merchandise.", "ramun_introduce_2",[
(troop_set_slot, "$g_talk_troop", slot_troop_met_previously, 1),
[trp_ramun_the_slave_trader,"start", [], "Hello, {playername}.", "ramun_talk",[]],In the first tuple, the condition block is where it check for a slot on ramun which tells the game whether we've met him before. If the slot equals 0, the text is shown. If it doesn't equal zero, the game skips over this option and will instead show the one that I posted underneath since that has no conditions.
Also, the operations block is used in the second tuple to set the troop slot to 1 so that the introduction isn't shown anymore.
So the way I was seeing this, you use the operations block of the 'start dialog with this troop to store_random_in_range and then you use the condition blocks of all the dialog options to check for the number.
@Barbac.. it's just a picture of me catching a shark, what's weird about that?
I learn so much in this thread, thankyou.
FrisianDude
Archduke
MartinF said:When in doubt, check the top of the py file in question, it explains what the different parts of the tuple are for.
In this case let's take the example of ramun the slave trader.
Code:[trp_ramun_the_slave_trader, "start", [ (troop_slot_eq, "$g_talk_troop", slot_troop_met_previously, 0), ], "Good day to you, {young man/lassie}.", "ramun_introduce_1",[]], [trp_ramun_the_slave_trader|plyr, "ramun_introduce_1", [], "Forgive me, you look like a trader, but I see none of your merchandise.", "ramun_introduce_2",[ (troop_set_slot, "$g_talk_troop", slot_troop_met_previously, 1), [trp_ramun_the_slave_trader,"start", [], "Hello, {playername}.", "ramun_talk",[]],
In the first tuple, the condition block is where it check for a slot on ramun which tells the game whether we've met him before. If the slot equals 0, the text is shown. If it doesn't equal zero, the game skips over this option and will instead show the one that I posted underneath since that has no conditions.
Also, the operations block is used in the second tuple to set the troop slot to 1 so that the introduction isn't shown anymore.
So the way I was seeing this, you use the operations block of the 'start dialog with this troop to store_random_in_range and then you use the condition blocks of all the dialog options to check for the number.
Right, so if I'd take something like the ask_rumor for villagers;
Code:
[anyone,"town_dweller_ask_rumor", [(store_mul, ":rumor_id", "$current_town", 197),
(val_add, ":rumor_id", "$g_talk_agent"),
(call_script, "script_get_rumor_to_s61", ":rumor_id"),
(gt, reg0, 0)], "{s61}", "town_dweller_talk",[]],
[anyone,"town_dweller_ask_rumor", [], "I haven't heard anything interesting lately.", "town_dweller_talk",[]],Then I should make a script like that "script_get_rumor_to_s61" for all the stories/jokes? So it'd be best if I copied the villager- rumor one and changed the copy, I'd think?
MartinF
Squire
well I think that's a bit of a complicated way of doing it.
Actually there's an even simpler way than what I thought up and it's already in native:
So rather than run the variable and then having all thsese different dialog tuples which you really don't need if the player isn't expected to answer, just use that system. Make a whole bunch of strings, then use the str_store_string_reg to copy a string into the one you're going to be showing. Quite clever really.
so:
Of course where I've put (close_window), you can just put another conversation block or whatever you want.
Alternatively, if you do want to be able to have the player respond differently to whatever is said:
So if the random nr is 1, the first one will come up. If it's 2, the second one, and so on.This way, you can have the player respond differently to each joke or story, if you want to. Or have like 2 or 3 different ones and use some for jokes and some for stories, whatever you want.
Haven't tested it but it should work.[/code]
Actually there's an even simpler way than what I thought up and it's already in native:
Code:
[party_tpl|pt_looters|auto_proceed,"start", [(eq,"$talk_context",tc_party_encounter)], "Warning: This line should never be displayed.", "looters_1",[
(str_store_string, s11, "@It's your money or your life, {mate/girlie}. No sudden moves or we'll run you through."),
(str_store_string, s12, "@Lucky for you, you caught me in a good mood. Give us all your coin and I might just let you live."),
(str_store_string, s13, "@This a robbery, eh? I givin' you one chance to hand over everythin' you got, or me and my mates'll kill you. Understand?"),
(store_random_in_range, ":random", 11, 14),
(str_store_string_reg, s4, ":random"),
(play_sound, "snd_encounter_looters")
]],So rather than run the variable and then having all thsese different dialog tuples which you really don't need if the player isn't expected to answer, just use that system. Make a whole bunch of strings, then use the str_store_string_reg to copy a string into the one you're going to be showing. Quite clever really.
so:
Code:
[anyone, "tell_joke_or_story", [
(str_store_string, s10, "bladiebla 1"),
(str_store_string, s11, "bladiebla 2"),
(str_store_string, s12, "bladiebla 3"),
(str_store_string, s13, "bladiebla 4"),
(store_random_in_range, ":random", 10, 14),
(str_store_string_reg, s4, ":random"),
], "{s4}", (close_window), []],Of course where I've put (close_window), you can just put another conversation block or whatever you want.
Alternatively, if you do want to be able to have the player respond differently to whatever is said:
Code:
[anyone|plyr, "tell_joke_or_story", [], "You got any jokes or stories for me?" , "tell_joke_or_story_2", [
(store_random_in_range, ":random", 1, 4),
(assign, reg(5), ":random"),
]],
[anyone, "tell_joke_or_story_2",[(eq, reg(5), 1)], "bladiebla 1", "tell_joke_or_story_3", []],
[anyone, "tell_joke_or_story_2",[(eq, reg(5), 2)], "bladiebla 2", "tell_joke_or_story_4", []],
[anyone, "tell_joke_or_story_2",[(eq, reg(5), 3)], "bladiebla 3", "tell_joke_or_story_2", []],So if the random nr is 1, the first one will come up. If it's 2, the second one, and so on.This way, you can have the player respond differently to each joke or story, if you want to. Or have like 2 or 3 different ones and use some for jokes and some for stories, whatever you want.
Haven't tested it but it should work.[/code]
FrisianDude
Archduke
Aha! Very nice; that looks as if I can understand it. 
Thanks, I'll give it a shot.
So I have to put the jokes in module_strings.py , I'd think?
Thanks, I'll give it a shot.
So I have to put the jokes in module_strings.py , I'd think?
FrisianDude
Archduke
Ofcourse. I've got
Now, and I'm given
which is very odd, because I didn't touch any of those other things.
After removing and replacing that bit I got
So, it's obvious, even to me, that I've made a mistake (again). Could you help me find out what I did wrong?
Code:
[anyone|plyr, "minstrel_2", [], "Could you tell me a joke?", "tell_joke", []],
[anyone, "tell_joke", [
(str_store_string, s10, "bladiebla 1"),
(str_store_string, s11, "bladiebla 2"),
(str_store_string, s12, "bladiebla 3"),
(str_store_string, s13, "bladiebla 4"),
(store_random_in_range, ":random", 10, 14),
(str_store_string_reg, s4, ":random"),
(try_end),
[]],Now, and I'm given
After removing and replacing that bit I got
So, it's obvious, even to me, that I've made a mistake (again). Could you help me find out what I did wrong?
MartinF
Squire
that would be my fault. I just quickly typed this in the post thingie, didn't check it over properly. You're missing the closing bracket for the conditions block, the try_end shouldn't be in there anymore and then there's a reference missing, which is not my fault at the end you need something, either a (close_window) or a link to another tuple:
[anyone, "tell_joke", [
(str_store_string, s10, "bladiebla 1"),
(str_store_string, s11, "bladiebla 2"),
(str_store_string, s12, "bladiebla 3"),
(str_store_string, s13, "bladiebla 4"),
(store_random_in_range, ":random", 10, 14),
(str_store_string_reg, s4, ":random"),
(try_end),
],
(close_window),
[]],
Try downloading Notepad++. When you click near a bracket in that program, it lights up red and it will do the same with the connected bracket, or for bigger tuples you can choose a bracket and then search for the one that's connected to it. That way you can easily check if you've got everything closed off properly and if there are no extra brackets.
Try to follow the syntax of existing tuples, so look at the one that does work, i.e. the one above and then try to work out what's different between the two.
Anyway, sorry about that. I didn't mean to confuse you further
at the end you need something, either a (close_window) or a link to another tuple:[anyone, "tell_joke", [
(str_store_string, s10, "bladiebla 1"),
(str_store_string, s11, "bladiebla 2"),
(str_store_string, s12, "bladiebla 3"),
(str_store_string, s13, "bladiebla 4"),
(store_random_in_range, ":random", 10, 14),
(str_store_string_reg, s4, ":random"),
],
(close_window),
[]],
Try downloading Notepad++. When you click near a bracket in that program, it lights up red and it will do the same with the connected bracket, or for bigger tuples you can choose a bracket and then search for the one that's connected to it. That way you can easily check if you've got everything closed off properly and if there are no extra brackets.
Try to follow the syntax of existing tuples, so look at the one that does work, i.e. the one above and then try to work out what's different between the two.
Anyway, sorry about that. I didn't mean to confuse you further
FrisianDude
Archduke
close_window is not defined, it said.
I'll check again tomorrow, I've got to leave soon.
I'll check again tomorrow, I've got to leave soon.
Angelos said:
that's always a funny one.
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