Indeed, I know the skirmish mode and class-based system are being described as for competitive players but a lot of us are not happy with them. Personally I want a high degree of customization available (ie, more than Warband offered) as I think it's vital for the multiplayer side's success and longevity in today's games market. I know many others in the competitive community feel the same ?OurGloriousLeader said:Literally no "competitive pretentious" players asked for the perks and lack of gear selection, or skirmish, in fact when it was first announced we all were against it.
GiipaGips said:And let the competitive pretentious players play "skirmish" or whatever on the normal servers while we others have fun on the "old school" servers that have both battle mode and original Warband customization. Then everyone is happy?
A fair deal, innit?
I never asked for these changes. Doesn't mean they're bad.[SOTR] Roy said:Unnecessary changes that nobody asked for in the name of adding “new” features. This is why age of empires 3 was a bomb whereas 2 is a classic.
If TW are going for a more grounded and authentic medieval setting, which they are, then naked guys with javelins are not conducive to that.[SOTR] Roy said:I think they’re bad because it limits creativity and customized play. If people want to run around with javelins they should be able to, if that’s how they want to play let them play that way. All this does is limit possibilities which limits the amount of enjoyable playtime for people, especially hose who want to play differently than the predetermined rules taleworlds sets.
If people want to run around naked with javelins, they can do so in casual modes, because it is simply not a viable strategy in any sort of legitimate competitive play. In my experience, the good players always ran the same old boring 2h sword loadout, which is why I find it odd that it's the old competitive players (mostly) who are against this system, but the casual naked javelin-men who are accepting of it...[SOTR] Roy said:I think they’re bad because it limits creativity and customized play. If people want to run around with javelins they should be able to, if that’s how they want to play let them play that way. All this does is limit possibilities which limits the amount of enjoyable playtime for people, especially hose who want to play differently than the predetermined rules taleworlds sets.
Precisely. I don’t know why people defend this, they are asking the game to be more limited rather than more accessible. It would be like people celebrating that now a company makes 2 types of cars instead of 4 because “the 2 are better”. What about the people who like the cancelled ones???Al-Mansūr said:How did they get this horrible idea to remove customization seriously? As a MP player I am dealing with utter disappointment. What made me like M&B at first was precisely customization, and now it's gone. I'm starting to lose interest in that game honestly.
No one is saying that Warband's system should not make a return. I enjoy it as it is despite my problems with it, and I imagine I'd like to play it in Bannerlord sometimes in the future.[SOTR] Roy said:Precisely. I don’t know why people defend this, they are asking the game to be more limited rather than more accessible. It would be like people celebrating that now a company makes 2 types of cars instead of 4 because “the 2 are better”. What about the people who like the cancelled ones???Al-Mansūr said:How did they get this horrible idea to remove customization seriously? As a MP player I am dealing with utter disappointment. What made me like M&B at first was precisely customization, and now it's gone. I'm starting to lose interest in that game honestly.
[SOTR] Roy said:Precisely. I don’t know why people defend this, they are asking the game to be more limited rather than more accessible. It would be like people celebrating that now a company makes 2 types of cars instead of 4 because “the 2 are better”. What about the people who like the cancelled ones???Al-Mansūr said:How did they get this horrible idea to remove customization seriously? As a MP player I am dealing with utter disappointment. What made me like M&B at first was precisely customization, and now it's gone. I'm starting to lose interest in that game honestly.
The only way you could have both is if there is an option to choose which mode to put on, which is fine. I’m just saying it shouldn’t be the only one, or even the default.Noudelle said:No one is saying that Warband's system should not make a return. I enjoy it as it is despite my problems with it, and I imagine I'd like to play it in Bannerlord sometimes in the future.[SOTR] Roy said:Precisely. I don’t know why people defend this, they are asking the game to be more limited rather than more accessible. It would be like people celebrating that now a company makes 2 types of cars instead of 4 because “the 2 are better”. What about the people who like the cancelled ones???Al-Mansūr said:How did they get this horrible idea to remove customization seriously? As a MP player I am dealing with utter disappointment. What made me like M&B at first was precisely customization, and now it's gone. I'm starting to lose interest in that game honestly.
Frankly I think it's a major mistake by TW not to include it. I personally don't think it's a great system, but I can see the appeal and why some are upset that it seems to be gone.
BUT
If I had to choose between the two options, I'd go with Bannerlord's system any time.