KnightV said:What i could help for the development of the mod so you will give me permission for using your 2 models in my mod?
Until you are a vassal, you can't do anything about this once you get to +80 relations with the Noldor. But at least, your own kingdom won't suffer from these kind of incidents, as they will share your own faction relations.alex.apple said:elves attack pesants I escort
and I am friendly to both and can't kill stupid elves
quest failed
is there any way?
It's been years since I last checked this but if I remember correctly (and Pendor doesn't add another penalty) you'll suffer a small relation penalty with every single lord in the world (and a loss of honor?) for every commoner you "promote" to lord status.Gorvex said:What happens if I promote a commoner companion to be my vassal? For example, has somebody ever made Sir Jocelyn or Frederick into a vassal? What kind of clashes will happen with other dedicated (=noble) vassals? Relation losses with all of them for each fief I give to those commoner vassals? Or something more?
Hm, I see thanks! Do those penalties happen only once, when you promote commoner lords into vassals? So no more relation losses once you start giving them fiefs as well? Because if so, that is absolutely handleable imo. Although I guess I'll find out when the time comes, and I'll do some testing too.Huillam said:It's been years since I last checked this but if I remember correctly (and Pendor doesn't add another penalty) you'll suffer a small relation penalty with every single lord in the world (and a loss of honor?) for every commoner you "promote" to lord status.
So I guess it's a one-time penalty with all lords on the map. Which is good (relatively).Note: Making a commoner a vassal will drop your relation with most lords (not only the ones in your kingdom) upon talking to them.
I guess you know that already, but capture chances are prerolled since v3.9. Other than that, strangely enough, Aeldarian was a slippery fellow for me as well! He escaped no less than 4 times in a row (under 130 days), with 6, 7, and 8 prisoner management skills gradually (under ideal circumstances ofc) Unbelieavable! I wanted to get his Duskfall really bad before going to +100 relations with the Noldor for the rest of the game. And guess what, I had to give up after that 4 tries, since I didn't want to miss out Noldor tournaments at Elacrai and training with Vendethiel...Huillam said:I suspect that's only my usual lack of luck but had anyone had issues with Aeldarian in 3.9.1? The guy escaped an absurd amount of time (he was present on the battlefield, I kept my relationship with noldor below 0, and for half of dozen of those escapes I even checked if he would have been captured with 10 in prisoner mangement). And now it's been more than a year since he last appeared.
I think it was a once-per-commoner penalty but as I said it was years ago (probably soon after the release of warband which means almost 10 years ago). I wouldn't want to mess with your kingdom if my memories are wrong.Gorvex said:Hm, I see thanks! Do those penalties happen only once, when you promote commoner lords into vassals? So no more relation losses once you start giving them fiefs as well? Because if so, that is absolutely handleable imo. Although I guess I'll find out when the time comes, and I'll do some testing too.
You probably missed my edits above Anyways, thanks for the help!Huillam said:I think it was a once-per-commoner penalty but as I said it was years ago (probably soon after the release of warband which means almost 10 years ago). I wouldn't want to mess with your kingdom if my memories are wrong.Gorvex said:Hm, I see thanks! Do those penalties happen only once, when you promote commoner lords into vassals? So no more relation losses once you start giving them fiefs as well? Because if so, that is absolutely handleable imo. Although I guess I'll find out when the time comes, and I'll do some testing too.
As for Aeldarian I just used the cheat menu to check if he was indeed buggy and he ended up captured two times out of three. As expected that was my usual lack of luck and nothing more.
Yup I removed my message, sorry I just saw your reply now. I reread the manual and it does indeed state likes and dislikes clearly. I was unaware that a companion would stay even if they disliked someone, just as long as they had someone they liked to balance that out.Huillam said:You do have companions that dislike each others, they're supposed to complain.
As long each of those dislike only one companion and like another one in the group things should be fine.
With your current setup for example, Donavan may choose to leave if you can't find Frederick quickly enough but Diev shouldn't.
Edit: I imagine that the previous message was deleted.
Here are some other ways to gain honor:Arnulf Floyd said:Is a way to gaining honour so faster than village defend quests