Where I used to live, we got a TRUE 56 connect... a little over 6.5kbytes/second. We were literally about 300 feet from the ISP. Where I live now, we're miles and miles from the routing station: 3.5kbytes/second is a good day. Downloading M&B v0.750 at 2.6kbytes/s at the moment. Update patches are nicer to get than full installs...