There's probably overlap for rollout, but the people who make pink armors aren't the same people who'd release custom servers for MP.
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Warband didn't need that at all
Ah good point I didn't realize that was happening. Maybe there should be a server option to disable skins, and have it disabled on ranked skirmish as well. (Again, for the 10 players who still play lol)
I mean... warband mp wasn't exactly popular was it? Don't get me wrong I loved it... but a few hundred people at most is not exactly amazing these days.
I don't think the skins will affect game balance.
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It is more popular than Bannerlord mp.
Most people dont mind cosmetics in a game they enjoy playing. Bannerlord right now is incredily difficult to enjoy, and adding cosmetics instead of custom servers is baffling considering Mount & Blade survived because of the modding community.
Paid skins are fine too, theres a ton of cool things you can do with that, and again, I sure dont mind throwing a few euros their way if the game is worth it, but its not.
This conversation is irrelevant anyway, I doubt this'll be added this year.
Theres so much they could add that would improve the player experience and make a profit on, just customization things.
The satisfaction of seing someone who tanked up body armor, having a full plated armor, but no helmet, then 1 hitting them with a sword because of 0 head armor.....MMMMMMMMMMMMMM good times, sure glad we wont experience that in the future.
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Warband MP had many aspects to it and maintained 1000 concurrent MP players at prime evening time a decade after release. That’s impressive considering how dated many aspects of the game are. Customisation, custom servers and the facilitation of community (and thereby competitive) elements were the lifeblood of Warband’s MP. Even with Bannerlord’s combat, which I think is a dramatic downgrade on Warband’s, custom servers and customisation could surely have maintained a significant MP community for events.
Arguing that Warband’s MP was a failure because it had a small playerbase is probably the dumbest argument possible when relating it to Bannerlord’s, because BL literally has several times fewer players in MP at any given time. That’s even given the fact that Warband’s MP playerbase is made up of almost completely different players to what it was in 2013-2015, while BL seems to waver and struggle to attract anyone new because it still lacks the core community features that supported Warband’s MP.
Setting aside the effort and consequences of adding a skin system, will the skins even be worth it? The game has some issues when it comes to high tier armor variation and while this could be easily be solved by adding more extreme and silly skins (like a wedding dress) that won't happen because the skins have to look at least vaguely consistent with the armor values of thier unit. Looking at the screenshot in the op the skins are slight changes at best, I don't see myself griding for any unless TW has some plans on greatly expanding the armory.
there are more players on Warband multiplayer than on Bannerlord multiplayer
I remember taking a screen from a few months ago comparing the number of players out of the 2, and already before Warband had more
Warband's single siege server had almost as many players as the entire Bannerlord multi
now and after returning to the Bannerlord servers recently there are even fewer players
I'd say Bannerlord is at least 80 players on average in matchmakingthere are more players on Warband multiplayer than on Bannerlord multiplayer
I remember taking a screen from a few months ago comparing the number of players out of the 2, and already before Warband had more
Warband's single siege server had almost as many players as the entire Bannerlord multi
now and after returning to the Bannerlord servers recently there are even fewer players
No, you should only be rewarded for your skill. Multiplayer is purely skill based. If someone is walking around with a skin that they bought it disincentives the competitive side to compete for them, and TaleWorlds will just make a profit that way and lose track of what's important. We have all seen this happen in so many games...
Adding skins to a game that is enjoyable is a good options since it may bring more people back in terms of player retention. The sad truth is that Bannerlord is currently not enjoyable at all. No custom server, combat sucks, class system sucks, developers don't interact with the community, everything just sucks. As much as I want to get back into the game, they're not making it easy. This is just the wrong way to go but it was their plan from the start so yeah they cannot just change it now. This is like building a new house that doesn't even have the right foundation to stand on but already starting to work on decorating by adding plants etc. etc.
I think yall have always been fine with Bannerlord *eventually* getting cosmetics.
But to see it in the testing phase before multiplayer is even 1/10th of the way done is just insulting.
The fact that weve gotten more DLC leaks in the last 6 days than we have spectator mode, duel mode, 3rd perk, or Battle mode leaks in 8 months is telling. I can imagine even some of the people in Taleworlds offices arent happy with the direction of the game, or this stuff wouldnt get leaked out.
If anyone in the head positions at Taleworlds think that Cosmetics for an empty multiplayer will be remotely worth the investment they are out of their ****ing minds. The only chance for this to work is to have a multiplayer that people actually enjoy. Nobody is buying cosmetics for empty servers. Even if your community is 10% sharks who buy every cosmetic that is still like... 4 people. Not worth it.
Edit: Even if none of these skins are for irl money its still an awful time to implement them. How are you supposed to complete matches to earn the skins with in game currency when there are no matches to complete? Maybe we will get 10 gold for every minute we sit in queue.
But to see it in the testing phase before multiplayer is even 1/10th of the way done is just insulting.
The fact that weve gotten more DLC leaks in the last 6 days than we have spectator mode, duel mode, 3rd perk, or Battle mode leaks in 8 months is telling. I can imagine even some of the people in Taleworlds offices arent happy with the direction of the game, or this stuff wouldnt get leaked out.
If anyone in the head positions at Taleworlds think that Cosmetics for an empty multiplayer will be remotely worth the investment they are out of their ****ing minds. The only chance for this to work is to have a multiplayer that people actually enjoy. Nobody is buying cosmetics for empty servers. Even if your community is 10% sharks who buy every cosmetic that is still like... 4 people. Not worth it.
Edit: Even if none of these skins are for irl money its still an awful time to implement them. How are you supposed to complete matches to earn the skins with in game currency when there are no matches to complete? Maybe we will get 10 gold for every minute we sit in queue.
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I'm not arguing that - bannerlord MP has undoubtedly failed to grab a lasting audience. I just don't consider Warband a triumph in numbers alone. loyalty and retention yes - but it never had any wide appeal.there are more players on Warband multiplayer than on Bannerlord multiplayer
I remember taking a screen from a few months ago comparing the number of players out of the 2, and already before Warband had more
Warband's single siege server had almost as many players as the entire Bannerlord multi
now and after returning to the Bannerlord servers recently there are even fewer players
Having played Warband MP & Bannerlord MP this week, I strongly disagree about the combat. i think there are certain aspects that need a lot of work. But I think the *feel* of combat in bannerlord is just about right. if anything Warband felt a little clunky by comparison.
I won't argue the other points, lack of custom servers is aweful and the class system I will admit hasn't grabbed the Warband community regardless of my feelings towards it.
Bannerlord combat and animations look smoother, but are more inconsistent in regards to hit detection, swing speed, damage calculations, movement and hitboxes.
Warband combat looks jankier, but the animations and hitboxes are so much more consistent that it creates fairness and understood rules of melee.
"Feel" is subjective, but to me a game feels better when it makes sense and the interactions between different classes and playstyles feel fair.
I guess what I am trying to say is the combat mechanics are serviceable - but improvable. I don't see them as something holding MP back.
