Creating 1v1 Inf/Duel MM & 2v2

[despair]

I feel like duelling is one of the main attractions in Warband. I know this has probably been suggested before but it'd be interesting to hear the community's current thoughts about this. I understand that you're strapped for cash and time because this is a community lead project but at the very least, 1v1 MM would be big I think? Also MM should host some tournaments! That'd be cool. I'd happily fund a 1v1 duel/inf server to try it out.

 

[Veledentella]

As far as I know, there is one tournament being hosted right now.

 

[Ascarion]

Afaik bullez (because mynes is gone, and somehow came back as a woman aka Ana) cant edit the code and add stuff as its mynes code. Therefore I doubt they'll be able to implement a tournament option, I think there was once a duel queue, but it really didnt have enough attraction afaik.

 

[Ascarion]

As far as I know, there is one tournament being hosted right now.

yeah WLL, but its already in KO's. So Its hard to find a team now.

 

[LaPache]

I feel like duelling is one of the main attractions in Warband. I know this has probably been suggested before but it'd be interesting to hear the community's current thoughts about this. I understand that you're strapped for cash and time because this is a community lead project but at the very least, 1v1 MM would be big I think? Also MM should host some tournaments! That'd be cool. I'd happily fund a 1v1 duel/inf server to try it out.

There is already a website featuring a tourney system. it is done by Harman and Yami but was shut down mostly because of lack of interest as far as I know.
Regarding adding a Duel function, it is worth to note that the interest of Warband is constantly decreasing thus I don't see much point in putting in even more effort on adding new features. I think Bullez feels the same. We achieved most of our goals with adding a MM feature for Warband despide all odds, for all active parts in the world + doing the same for NW and their active regions. Ofc there are still things that could be added such as a MM for cavalry Groupfighting on NW or a duel/2v2 mode. But I doubt the interest in those are really that huge that it is worth putting the effort into it (that is if Bullez could even do it). Also, we already had a Duel mode for MM and the interest wasn't that huge. Not to mention that you can easily go on Ludus and duel there instead as it only takes 2 people to play.

 

[despair]

I feel like there are lots of players on matchmaking who would participate in a tournament if they knew it was happening. What struck me about the WLL is that it's practically quite hard to find on the forum. There are lots of native players who if exposed to the idea of a native tournament would most likely want to participate. Take for example Last Hope (LH), a clan on TG_Arena (which is very popular). They haven't even heard of the WLL or MM. But to clarify, I think there are players on MM who do not know about the WLL. In other words, MM is respected. Although people regularly lament its toxic culture, this toxic culture is natural to matchmaking in any game. Look at CS:GO or Valorant. All I'm saying is MM carries with it an air of legitimacy, so creating an 'MM' tournament, by just sponsoring it and using it in the tournament's name (you could even recruit a brand new administration if the current MM administration didn't feel up to it - they would be able to choose who ran the tournament as the tournament would run the risk, if a failure, could make MM look bad (whatever that means). I also think to go a step further, you could use the software that MM currently uses to run the tournament. A radical suggestion, I know. But it'd be interesting if the software, which is so efficient, and used it in this hypothetical MM tournament. It would make tournament's run more smoothly. For example, you would lose the really boring bit where team's are sorting out their drops. It's all automatic you see. The team's join MM (I'm sure the software would have to be altered which I'm not expecting anyone to want to do but I wonder by how much - in other words, it might not be difficult to make the software tournament-friendly). You could host a short 6v6 tournament that tests this out.

But yeah, imagine teams just showed up, the servers would know when to appear, when to start the match, if a team didn't show, or didn't have enough players, the software would be programmed to pick this up (as it already does) and boom, the other team get the default. The match is cancelled. I just feel like the whole **** about needing individual admins, only one or two people knowing what server the match is taking place on, figuring on drops when the actual official is taking place (this should be perfected beforehand - teams would quickly acclimate to this) - no big pauses between sets - all just more efficient - more smooth - and all through MM and hosted by MM. With MM's name in the tournament such as - The Warband Competitive League, Sponsored by Matchmaking and run using our Matchmaking software - I would provide a moderate prize pool - it would be 6v6 - ruthlessly efficient - prioritising smoothness - we could also advertise the tournament on TG_Arena, Persistent Kingdoms and Siege - it would be programmed so that like it is now, anyone can just make an account, find a team, etc. I don't know. What do you think?

 

[Veledentella]

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Just go to The_Ludus and play on there. Casual players on TG_Arena are not interested in tourneys simply because they are casuals. It is all not worth the effort as LaPache accurately wrote.

 

[LaPache]

I feel like there are lots of players on matchmaking who would participate in a tournament if they knew it was happening. What struck me about the WLL is that it's practically quite hard to find on the forum. There are lots of native players who if exposed to the idea of a native tournament would most likely want to participate. Take for example Last Hope (LH), a clan on TG_Arena (which is very popular). They haven't even heard of the WLL or MM. But to clarify, I think there are players on MM who do not know about the WLL. In other words, MM is respected. Although people regularly lament its toxic culture, this toxic culture is natural to matchmaking in any game. Look at CS:GO or Valorant. All I'm saying is MM carries with it an air of legitimacy, so creating an 'MM' tournament, by just sponsoring it and using it in the tournament's name (you could even recruit a brand new administration if the current MM administration didn't feel up to it - they would be able to choose who ran the tournament as the tournament would run the risk, if a failure, could make MM look bad (whatever that means). I also think to go a step further, you could use the software that MM currently uses to run the tournament. A radical suggestion, I know. But it'd be interesting if the software, which is so efficient, and used it in this hypothetical MM tournament. It would make tournament's run more smoothly. For example, you would lose the really boring bit where team's are sorting out their drops. It's all automatic you see. The team's join MM (I'm sure the software would have to be altered which I'm not expecting anyone to want to do but I wonder by how much - in other words, it might not be difficult to make the software tournament-friendly). You could host a short 6v6 tournament that tests this out.

All tournies are announced on the MM website featuring a massive banner. People don't particapate in these tournies because they are to competetive. Yes they are hard to find but that is mostly on TW for not allowing us to use subboards on the forum and instead forcing us to use their stupid groups.

But yeah, imagine teams just showed up, the servers would know when to appear, when to start the match, if a team didn't show, or didn't have enough players, the software would be programmed to pick this up (as it already does) and boom, the other team get the default. The match is cancelled. I just feel like the whole **** about needing individual admins, only one or two people knowing what server the match is taking place on, figuring on drops when the actual official is taking place (this should be perfected beforehand - teams would quickly acclimate to this) - no big pauses between sets - all just more efficient - more smooth - and all through MM and hosted by MM. With MM's name in the tournament such as - The Warband Competitive League, Sponsored by Matchmaking and run using our Matchmaking software - I would provide a moderate prize pool - it would be 6v6 - ruthlessly efficient - prioritising smoothness - we could also advertise the tournament on TG_Arena, Persistent Kingdoms and Siege - it would be programmed so that like it is now, anyone can just make an account, find a team, etc. I don't know. What do you think?

Like I said there is already a website featuring an automatic tourney system similar to the MM one if people really cared they'd be using it.