Why would they not keep charging ? they're not the ones knocked on the ground.
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Cavalry is overpowered
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The primary downside is how it could affect public play, particularly given the prevalence of cavalry, and make it quite unenjoyable to deal with getting knocked over by teammates or even trolled by them. This could be lessened by doing something like making the duration of team-bumps and team-knockdowns shorter than the duration of those on enemies, but there’s still a lot of potential for abuse in public games.
I also don’t think a flat HP or armour nerf is the right way to go. There are much smarter ways to redefine the balance between the classes that promotes more skill-based gameplay, a few examples of which are in my first post on this thread.
It worked fine in cRPG. And i dont see any differences between knocking teammates and shoot your teammates. As for trolling, i can easily troll my team as an archer even now. Just shoot your teammate to prevent his strikes in fighting. The friendly damage is very little anyway, so u can troll the team without killing anyone.
Hmmm nice tip, thanks!
gl, don't forget to say "sorry" after every "incident"!
Now i know why you shoot me everytime. Lol
it was easier to precisely maneuver horses in Warband, particularly at high speeds, so it was less of an issue in cRPG. on larger public servers where most people are not playing cavalry there is also a lesser potential negative impact from cavalry being able to bump teammates. in skirmish, particularly in pub games, an incompetent or trolling friendly cavalry could seriously frustrate their teammates. given how powerful knockdowns are rn it definitely would not be fun to get knocked down for 4 or 5 seconds by your teammate. there is so much potential for a change like that to make public games even more frustrating and boring than they already are.
i think it is better to stick to changes without the potential for a significant negative impact.
Thrax1
Regular
There will always be potential for abuse when there is team damage, adding another element isn’t going to matter much. As far as unskilled players, you still get team hit either way
soul_jak
Sergeant at Arms
IMO cav is actually pretty balanced they actually feel like they matter again, now against inf I feel spear buff will help, I’d like to see more of a reduction on bump dmg like 3-7 dmg max, and reduce glance when hitting a horse and increase dmg a bit (not much) but cav actually feels useful especially when archers stray
I'm still on the mindset that they need specific game mechanics in place to screw over archers, hence why I voted no. I still think the ideal situation would be for melee attack animations while mounted to not be interrupted by projectiles, with throwing spears being the sole exception.
From my experience playing the game, cavalry can really only succeed in distracting archers and a distraction is only as useful as long as he can stay alive. Wanna know what would be even more useful? Actually killing the archer.
From my experience playing the game, cavalry can really only succeed in distracting archers and a distraction is only as useful as long as he can stay alive. Wanna know what would be even more useful? Actually killing the archer.
fortheshire
Recruit
i think cavalry is fine
anti-cav weapons just need a buff
anti-cav weapons just need a buff
Part of cav's issue is how risk-free it is for them to push through a crowd of people with little to no slowdown. Why place all that risk on the teammate's shoulders, instead of implementing something much simpler first, which is to stop people getting pushed around and have a limit on how many people a cav can bump through? At low speed the horse then would not be able to walk out of an army like it currently can.
Team damage on horse bumps is such an overworked addition that totally changes the game, when there are myriad options for balance first.
Team damage on horse bumps is such an overworked addition that totally changes the game, when there are myriad options for balance first.
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Team damage on horses is one of the best things to happen to cav in cRPG, and I would fully welcome it here.
Even before team damage reporting it was never a major problem and served as a major limiting factor far cavalry in close teamfights.
Another change I would love to see is to have the longest bump-knockdown duration be reduced, in the worst cases you lay down for like 3-4 seconds, which is insane in a teamfight scenario and should be reduced to no more than 2 seconds in my opinion.
Even before team damage reporting it was never a major problem and served as a major limiting factor far cavalry in close teamfights.
Another change I would love to see is to have the longest bump-knockdown duration be reduced, in the worst cases you lay down for like 3-4 seconds, which is insane in a teamfight scenario and should be reduced to no more than 2 seconds in my opinion.
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DeathBG
Squire
That's a good Idea.It will also make it more accurate like no horse in real life will drive himself into a wall with 80km/h
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