Just curious. Often lived with smokers for most of my life. I find it odourous and creates a lot of dust in the home. Yet even in years back when it was bad I tried to take it up but I think in my lifetime I've only enjoyed 2 cigars, despite probably smoking 200-300 of them in the past 25 years. So what is your experience with smoking? Cigarettes do absolutely nothing for me.
Can't get into smoking despite years of trying...
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I'm not averse to it but I'd rather not get into the habit of it because I don't have that kind of disposable income, besides the cosmetic effects to teeth/skin/etc. I'm dying twenty years early because of the Diabeetus anyways so long term health effects it doesn't really matter to me, I just would rather not become dependent on such an expensive habit.
Diabetes? Is this type 2? Friend of mine lost her husband aged in his 50s, he had it real bad. But then I have a friend in his 50s who controlled it very well. I figure with proper control you should have a near normal life. Not sure what that nicotine high is, though if every cigar was as good as those two I had... I might've gotten into it.
Mind you, I hate the smell. One guy smoking a cigarette in an enclosed room and I start going homicidal… Maybe vaping ain't so bad.
Mind you, I hate the smell. One guy smoking a cigarette in an enclosed room and I start going homicidal… Maybe vaping ain't so bad.
i also found it very weak as a drug. I feel it only after being nicotine deprived for at least several days or when I'm already drunk.
I have never tried, being turned away from it during my youth. My mother smoked in the house until I was 12. When she quit, I started smelling it everywhere, and I didn't like it at all.
The health costs (even disregarding cancer risk), risk of addiction, and monetary costs, make it very hard for me to understand why any adults would ever consider starting. As Bilgesi said, it's a rotten drug.
The health costs (even disregarding cancer risk), risk of addiction, and monetary costs, make it very hard for me to understand why any adults would ever consider starting. As Bilgesi said, it's a rotten drug.
It baffles me that people even start smoking. No one likes it to begin with. Why continue through those first nauseating cigarettes?
I guess they think "that was terrible, but I just have to get used to it". It's so weird. No one says "that broccoli tastes terrible, but I just have to get used to it". No, they stop eating broccoli.
Everyone knows you get addicted, and yet they don't mind losing even more of that bit of free will they have.
It's just plain dumb, especially if you include the yellow teeth, early aging of the skin, coughing, stench, shortness of - and bad - breath, and all the deadly diseases.
I guess they think "that was terrible, but I just have to get used to it". It's so weird. No one says "that broccoli tastes terrible, but I just have to get used to it". No, they stop eating broccoli.
Everyone knows you get addicted, and yet they don't mind losing even more of that bit of free will they have.
It's just plain dumb, especially if you include the yellow teeth, early aging of the skin, coughing, stench, shortness of - and bad - breath, and all the deadly diseases.
Both my parents were smoking, my mom only recently stopped - mainly because the prices got ridiculously high. As a byproduct she also stopped solving crosswords and she was blasting through two-three little books of those a month 
My dad got addicted as a kid and because of his mom. He noticed her smoking, so she decided to deter him by giving him a try. Didn't work. 50's were different times, I guess.
I got used to the smoke early due to all of this and even kind of enjoy its smell, but never gave it a try, never felt inclined to either.
My dad got addicted as a kid and because of his mom. He noticed her smoking, so she decided to deter him by giving him a try. Didn't work. 50's were different times, I guess.
I got used to the smoke early due to all of this and even kind of enjoy its smell, but never gave it a try, never felt inclined to either.
Yeah, its appeal is strange. I see so many smokers around. Every hour they went for smoke breaks so I went too for my 15 minute smoke break. Even if I don't smoke.
Those two cigars I did enjoy, it was memorable, some kinda relaxing pleasurable high, as if I had some chick 'helping me out'. It was that good.
Friend of mine I caught up on via skype told me how **** things were, how his father is so wasted he can't even leave home since his lungs are wasted with cigarettes. I figure not all people respond in the same way to cigarettes. I think he was in his 50s.
Those two cigars I did enjoy, it was memorable, some kinda relaxing pleasurable high, as if I had some chick 'helping me out'. It was that good.
Friend of mine I caught up on via skype told me how **** things were, how his father is so wasted he can't even leave home since his lungs are wasted with cigarettes. I figure not all people respond in the same way to cigarettes. I think he was in his 50s.
Adorno said:
Addiction starts because people vastly underestimate their addictive tendencies. The brain will constantly tell you "I'm not addicted" and try to justify your actions by downplaying the risks. Why do any of us eat meat or sugary processed food, even after knowing the procedure they're put through? There are no benefits and a tonne of downsides. Why does anybody gamble or spend £20 on a costume in a video game?
Most of the people I know who started smoking at a young age were confident people who took a draw for a joke just once and got hooked.
I think the social aspects of it also plays a large part, it's rebellious, makes you feel independent and adult (if you're young), looks cool in movies, you want to emulate your heroes, etc.
Then you get addicted and it's hard to quit. But to me it sometimes seems like every other 50+ person is a former smoker who successfully quit decades ago.
I've always liked the smell of tobacco and also enjoy the feeling of drawing the smoke down my lungs, but the guilt over just how expensive and ridiculously unhealthy it is coupled with the sheer inconvenience of it nowadays wins out in the end. Now I don't use any tobacco products.
Then you get addicted and it's hard to quit. But to me it sometimes seems like every other 50+ person is a former smoker who successfully quit decades ago.
I've always liked the smell of tobacco and also enjoy the feeling of drawing the smoke down my lungs, but the guilt over just how expensive and ridiculously unhealthy it is coupled with the sheer inconvenience of it nowadays wins out in the end. Now I don't use any tobacco products.
The only times I come close to breaking for tobacco is when someone smokes a pipe. The smell is so enticing to me it's unreal. Thankfully I've learnt buying affordable tobacco for that is near damn impossible, so there goes my addiction.
If you try to start smoking then you are the very definition of terminally retarded.
yeah the title sounds a lot like
#secondworldproblems
#secondworldproblems
Adorno said:
Nobody likes alcohol the first time around either and if they say they did, they are liars. Unlike broccoli, smoking and drinking are/were rites of passage, so you just do/did them. I had my first cigarette when I was like 6 purely because it was the adult thing that was forbidden to us kids. But the 70s were a different, simpler time and I grew up with Gypsies
I guess cigarettes lost a lot of that status, at least in the West proper.
My parents were smokers but started to quit some 15 years ago or so. They always told me, almost weekly, don't smoke, it's so bad for you and we are fighting really hard to stop. It only takes once. All that stuff. So I didn't do cigarettes and once they quit and I got to smelling them all the time I had zero interest anyway.
Buuuut eventually a younger, more impressionable pixel found himself in a hookah lounge, sitting there on a pretty comfortable couch with some nice music for an hour just smoking from the water pipe. Because that made it soooo much better than cigarettes, I guess. It had almost nothing to do with the hookah itself but rather the fact that woah, I'm old enough to show someone my ID. I'm so cool. And of course the whole social part of it. Really I didn't like it that much. After 20 minutes or so you just get really lightheaded (at first it's a pleasant kind of lightheadedness and then it becomes nauseating). And it makes you want to go home and sleep.
After doing that a few times I lost interest because marijuana was so much more interesting and fun than tobacco and didn't make me feel sick, sleepy, and guilty. Not that I smoke marijuana often... last time for me was like before New Years'... but why bother with tobacco tbqh? I mean if you're gonna smoke at all...
Buuuut eventually a younger, more impressionable pixel found himself in a hookah lounge, sitting there on a pretty comfortable couch with some nice music for an hour just smoking from the water pipe. Because that made it soooo much better than cigarettes, I guess. It had almost nothing to do with the hookah itself but rather the fact that woah, I'm old enough to show someone my ID. I'm so cool. And of course the whole social part of it. Really I didn't like it that much. After 20 minutes or so you just get really lightheaded (at first it's a pleasant kind of lightheadedness and then it becomes nauseating). And it makes you want to go home and sleep.
After doing that a few times I lost interest because marijuana was so much more interesting and fun than tobacco and didn't make me feel sick, sleepy, and guilty. Not that I smoke marijuana often... last time for me was like before New Years'... but why bother with tobacco tbqh? I mean if you're gonna smoke at all...
kurczak said:
My parents gave me a tiny bit of wine when I was like, 5 years old, and I thought it was bitter. Then my parents let me have a glass with my food when I was 14 and I instantly enjoyed it. Same with a caribbean recipe called Guinness Punch. I reckon some people are accustomed to cigarettes before they even try them, especially given how many people will say stuff like "I started smoking alone and in private because work was stressful". I don't think smoking would even function on such a scale if nobody liked the taste at first, and the only motivators were social.
I still remember my first taste of red wine. I managed to sneak a bottle into a hiding place. Maybe a year later I opened it, tasted it and I was disgusted since it was not sweet. Got into drinking when I was 14, after a trip to paris when all my friends were falling all over the place and hurling bottles across the street, 4 floors up. Apparently there was a porn shoot going on they said.
Had to be sweet, otherwise I wouldn't bother with it. I guess I might try vaping one of these days. But I'm just laughing at how other people smoke obsessively, and I can't get into it despite trying. I think its a disgusting habit, but I sure have tried over the past three decades....
Had to be sweet, otherwise I wouldn't bother with it. I guess I might try vaping one of these days. But I'm just laughing at how other people smoke obsessively, and I can't get into it despite trying. I think its a disgusting habit, but I sure have tried over the past three decades....
