【Video】 PoP Enhanced Siege Battle 【updated 2-1-2013】

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Hello guys, never expected this post to end like this, nor try to hurt anyone's feelings, so just few things to clear up:

-I made the video to introduce the castle mod (as you can see in the first 5 seconds on the tittle screen) and for general entertaining, I did not take part in the making of the edited version of it. I do know one of the dude who did it, and I did post the dl link of that edited version in the original post which later been edited out. Obviously I didn't read the forum rules (thanks to Dorrin and noosers who pointed that out for me) nor having a clear understand of how copyright works, I apologize for such ignorant act.

-I didn't check YouTube every often, forgot to edited the desperation which originally have the links available, now it's gone.

-Like I said, I didn't participate in editing of this mod, but I do know one of dude who did it. It was never their intention to steal nor disrespect the Saxondragon and the dev team of PoP, their original intention was simply wanting to make mod that they are addicted to better, but lacking the understanding of how copyright works. Items they added are all open sources and they give credit to the original modder as well the dev team of PoP and a link to the official PoP site, the edited version was even post in PoP forum(like this one) under the Chinese M&B forum, which separate from the mod publishing forum and mod editing forum, it was meant for the PoP fans in China and they didn't claim they made it, simply said they just tweaked it and add more staffs to it, But as you can see, they didn't ask for the permission of Saxondragon and the dev team, which is the most important thing they could of done. I'm not trying to justify their actions but only giving you details of it.

-Yes, copyright issue is always a big problem in China, personally I have tried the "free version" of M&B from an public source in China before fall in love with game and bought the legal version of it, defiantly not something I'm proud of, but just an example of the seriousness of this problem. I think it's most caused by the poor educational system, where as I growing up, copyright and concept of ownership were never an important topic. I know, shame on us.

-The official Chinese M&B forum does not support piracy and unauthorized work, they follow the same rules of English M&B forum, just a matter of enforcement and management. I will let them know you guys' concerns and see what action they will take. I will also contact the modders of the edited version if it's not too late for an apology. After all, they do respect you guys' work, and only wanting to make it better, but lack the understanding of "asking permission".

I apologize again for my friend who edited the PoP, and to Saxondargon and rest of the dev team, we all loved your work to death and respect the time, recourse, and hardwork you spend for the enjoyment of many, but lacking the understanding of copyright and concept of ownership. As our country grows, this concept is getting more and more noticeable, laws and rules start to enforce it, but far away from perfection, especially in the modding community. I hope this incident will ring alert among us(we Chinese) and become step stone from ignorance to understanding of copyright and ownership.

2-1-2013 ArmStrike

I will let you guys know updates on this issue ASAP!
Ps: been in America for few year, hopefully you guys can understand my poor English.

A little video I made for Mount and Blade: Warband Siege Battle

http://youtu.be/iBGJtj-UWRM

note: the one in the video is an edited version of pop, just with more items and units.

Introduce an awesome mod,

Historic Castles Project - the British Isles by Adorno
download and install instructions: http://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php?topic=115163.0

Other mods I recommend are:

Blood enhancement tweak v0.5 by neil_v
Tweak 4 was used in this video, and it's AWSOME! Link and instruction:http://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php?topic=143179.0

Better Skybox: http://www.mbrepository.com/file.php?id=2331
Read the instruction after you download, you have to manually change a code line, it's simple though.

Music used in this video: Stand Tall by Epic Score (Thank you XxImmortalmagexX and your badass battle music list XD)

Thanks for Watching!
 
Interesting though what I mostly see is a lot of the last days of the third age mod (which is a great mod), :eek: lots of gondor units, which I have heard was a sub mod for this mod. Though they still look wonderful and the silvermist rangers look even cooler.

If I were to dl it I'd just have 2 versions of Pop instead of replacing the old game. Unless you don't have any hard drive space, but let's face it you can always delete some of the porn on your hard drives guys. Really appreciate you sharing this as I am always dling new mods to add to my collection. :twisted: Even if the mod makers take this down remember I love you..  Also that armor you are wearing...  :shock:  :mrgreen:
 
Did you get permission to copy, edit and post all the mods you listed before doing this? If not you had better get those links removed.
 
Contacting higher-ups until further inspection by Saxondragon or TaleWorld Administrators is done.

You may not have permission to upload anything related to creating a new module for PoP.
 
Dorrin said:
Did you get permission to copy, edit and post all the mods you listed before doing this? If not you had better get those links removed.
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I didn't edit any of these mods, I simply add them to my game and introduce them to the forum (which are already posted on the forum), My friends whom made Prophesy of Pendor 3.51 DLC1 G did edit and used a lot of ppl's Mods, with permission ofc, in the Chinese M&B forum where he posted the Mod, he had a list of Mods and modders in the "Special Thank" section
 
You're posting links to a mod that other people modified then.. do you have permission to do so? Not from whoever modified it, but from the original mod makers. I imagine if they had agreed to anything like that we'd have seen links before. Not too sure how you posted after Mitch locked this, but locked it should be until Saxon or the Taleworld folks get by to examine what is going on here.. they have the final say no matter who claims to have gained permission.
 
Dorrin said:
You're posting links to a mod that other people modified then.. do you have permission to do so? Not from whoever modified it, but from the original mod makers. I imagine if they had agreed to anything like that we'd have seen links before. Not too sure how you posted after Mitch locked this, but locked it should be until Saxon or the Taleworld folks get by to examine what is going on here.. they have the final say no matter who claims to have gained permission.
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xxxholic01 (芬涅尔) and vvtonycc you mean? yes i do have permissions,  xxxholic01 is one of my personal contact, I asked him and he agreed. They are from the Chinese M&B forum, so I don't know how to prove it but...(aww now I understand why xxxholic told me it's quite troublesome to post it here.) I guess higher-ups in the forum can contact M&B.cn to prove it?
 
Let's all calm down and let me finish my 2 hour dl lol, you're right in the sense that he should have pm'd saxon or someone else who is a mod in this section of the forums if he could post this modification here. But if they had said no I wouldn't get this cool gear so...  :evil: :evil: Besides at the very least it may be interesting to see some of the new stuff and if you like it maybe add it to the next version as the work is mostly done, it just needs some bug flushing/ testing.

A problem I can see though is that, the mod was only posted 3 days ago on the Chinese website. FIGHT THE POWER!!!  :twisted: Probably the biggest problem is that you could have uploaded a virus in the folder and they usually need to check first or w.e, of course if your rank was higher on the forums it'd be easier.

The castle maker, didn't mind by the post he made so that one should be fine.
 
ArmStrike said:
Dorrin said:
You're posting links to a mod that other people modified then.. do you have permission to do so? Not from whoever modified it, but from the original mod makers. I imagine if they had agreed to anything like that we'd have seen links before. Not too sure how you posted after Mitch locked this, but locked it should be until Saxon or the Taleworld folks get by to examine what is going on here.. they have the final say no matter who claims to have gained permission.
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xxxholic01 (芬涅尔) and vvtonycc you mean? yes i do have permissions,  xxxholic01 is one of my personal contact, I asked him and he agreed. They are from the Chinese M&B, so I don't know how to prove it but...(aww now I understand why xxxholic told me it's quite troublesome to post it here.) I guess higher-ups in the forum can contact M&B.cn to prove it?
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The problem lies in where you need permission from, if its not signed off by the official PoP team(such as Saxondragon)links to it shouldn't be here on their forums. Mitchymatt is a moderator on this subforum, and i believe an official part of their team... if he locks a thread it should be left that way until he or another forum mod decide otherwise. Maybe they will give you and your friends wherever that was permission to modify and post various versions here, maybe not, but until they do so the right thing to do is keep those links to yourself.
 
I really doubt he unlocked it, it was likely mitchymatt or someone else, I can't see a forum allowing a thread creator the ability to unlock a thread that a moderator locked.

Well no viruses so far, wish me luck :eek:
 
Dorrin said:
ArmStrike said:
Dorrin said:
You're posting links to a mod that other people modified then.. do you have permission to do so? Not from whoever modified it, but from the original mod makers. I imagine if they had agreed to anything like that we'd have seen links before. Not too sure how you posted after Mitch locked this, but locked it should be until Saxon or the Taleworld folks get by to examine what is going on here.. they have the final say no matter who claims to have gained permission.
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xxxholic01 (芬涅尔) and vvtonycc you mean? yes i do have permissions,  xxxholic01 is one of my personal contact, I asked him and he agreed. They are from the Chinese M&B, so I don't know how to prove it but...(aww now I understand why xxxholic told me it's quite troublesome to post it here.) I guess higher-ups in the forum can contact M&B.cn to prove it?
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The problem lies in where you need permission from, if its not signed off by the official PoP team(such as Saxondragon)links to it shouldn't be here on their forums. Mitchymatt is a moderator on this subforum, and i believe an official part of their team... if he locks a thread it should be left that way until he or another forum mod decide otherwise. Maybe they will give you and your friends wherever that was permission to modify and post various versions here, maybe not, but until they do so the right thing to do is keep those links to yourself.
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aww, i see, I'm not familiar with terms about posting links here, my original intention was just sharing my homemade video. I will wait and see what the admin will say, before that, link closed.
 
Is there a reason the menu.txt is messed up, I fixed it by placing Pop 3.51s menu in the mod folder but everything was pretty invisible, you could click things but it was weird and you couldn't see the text. I will note that I am re downloading the game as my connection when I first downloaded it cutout so I will repost my findings as to whether that is an actual bug when my second go at it finishes.

@Epicrules, I guess I should have said this forums right? :razz:, care to clarify? I'm guessing that talesworld doesn't have that feature.

I really recommend you guys check out some of the cool items in this mod and possibly try and get permission to use them as there is some VERY awesome ones. It's like these guys did everything for me in finding cool items.
 
AnddyiRaynor said:
Is there a reason the menu.txt is messed up, I fixed it by placing Pop 3.51s menu in the mod folder but everything was pretty invisible, you could click things but it was weird and you couldn't see the text. I will note that I am re downloading the game as my connection when I first downloaded it cutout so I will repost my findings as to whether that is an actual bug when my second go at it finishes.

@Epicrules, I guess I should have said this forums right? :razz:, care to clarify? I'm guessing that talesworld doesn't have that feature.
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srry mate, the modders whom did it did most of new items in chinese, we talked about it and he said he will include the english name for them in the future patch. Also, he said most troops and items should have a name, may not be in English though. (pingyin, used to spell Chinese in foreign publications) yeah, most of the files are the same, it's just pop with more items and troops, some has been edited and some reminds the same, the reason why he did it like a separate mod it's because he don't want to replace the original pop so players can keep 2 different gameplay without constantly replacing files.
 
Yeah, renaming the items would be simple for me :razz:, if I was that bothered by it. I just finished downloading the mod again to see if that menus.txt bug is still there.

(Yeah it isn't fixed but at the very least it is fixable as long as you place the other menus.txt in there, of course you will have to edit the menus.txt if you want to use the cheatmenu to check the items out.

mb2lj.jpg

I'd figure out the problem myself but my ultra edit messed up and the other text editor I have is notepad and that is a bore to edit with.

So far I am loving the new stuff especially all the new capes :eek:

Edit: Well looking at the menus.txt it was plain to see you guys didn't know how to add the items to the cheat menu :razz:

288230376151712890 Look for that number and there are 3 instances of it, change all 3 of them to 288230376151713495 it could be less but I don't care to be more accurate.

Ok well I made a huge mistake in saying the menus.txt was bad. It still needs to the cheatmenu itemrange change but it's the font_data that was messing it up. I guess I forgot to do a dry run with the menus.txt and the fonts_data change I did last time. :razz:
 
AnddyiRaynor said:
Yeah, renaming the items would be simple for me :razz:, if I was that bothered by it. I just finished downloading the mod again to see if that menus.txt bug is still there.

(Yeah it isn't fixed but at the very least it is fixable as long as you place the other menus.txt in there, of course you will have to edit the menus.txt if you want to use the cheatmenu to check the items out.

mb2lj.jpg

I'd figure out the problem myself but my ultra edit messed up and the other text editor I have is notepad and that is a bore to edit with.

So far I am loving the new stuff especially all the new capes :eek:

Edit: Well looking at the menus.txt it was plain to see you guys didn't know how to add the items to the cheat menu :razz:

288230376151712890 Look for that number and there are 3 instances of it, change all 3 of them to 288230376151713495 it could be less but I don't care to be more accurate.

Ok well I made a huge mistake in saying the menus.txt was bad. It still needs to the cheatmenu itemrange change but it's the font_data that was messing it up. I guess I forgot to do a dry run with the menus.txt and the fonts_data change I did last time. :razz:
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i see the prob, after contacting the modder, he said he did edit the menus.txt, since the cruiser is bugged in the chinese version of pop(floating), and only other change they made is adding the ability to meet the town master. They are currently working on ways to solve it, and thanks for the finding!
 
I don´t think SD has given his permission for such a thing as he´s rather strictly against published submods for PoP - wether it´s in Russia or China.

Editing the personal game one plays himself or doing so and publicy releasing it is quite a different thing. And if nothing else but good taste requires to get permission first before you start editing i´d rather bet that file gets swept off because the little bugger didn´t.

Call it Chinese Censorship. PoP is not OSP content. It´s free to download and play but definetly not free to be tweaked, cracked, changed and openly released to the public.
 
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