Importance of peasants in the Dark and Medieval Ages
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That's a looooong loooong time ago...the riot i was speaking about took place in 1507 in Transylvania (couldn't find it in Wikipedia) and it's one of the few organised riots in The Romanian Kingdoms...
And I am eager to learn... that was the first peasant uprising in the Dark Ages?
There were plenty of peasant uprisings over here.
In fact, we rebelled against William the Conqueror initially. Not necessarily because of any problem with him, we just tend to take any excuse to smash stuff up.
Well that, and the fact that those French horses would've made good eating.
In fact, we rebelled against William the Conqueror initially. Not necessarily because of any problem with him, we just tend to take any excuse to smash stuff up.
Well that, and the fact that those French horses would've made good eating.
Dark Ages = Early Middle Ages between let's see "(roughly) 476AD to 1000AD." (wikipedia)
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The uprising against Saint Olaf was in the Dark Ages
The riot from 1507 wasn't in the Dark Ages
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The uprising against Saint Olaf was in the Dark Ages
The riot from 1507 wasn't in the Dark Ages
I always figured that pawns in chess were a pretty good indicator of the importance of peasants in the Middle Ages.
Ezias
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Eogan said:
agreed. maybe not that they played the exact same role as on a chess board, but who does? I think that any chess player that thinks of pawns as useless will lose, jsut as any general/;eader that thinks of peasents as uselss cannon-fodder will lose. Not that one of their big roles wasnt cannon-fodder, i know thats what id mainly use them as, but ti wasnt all they were good for.
Right...
Got an exception... but be carefull cause it's weird! (and it's true)
July 26 1476... The peasants from King's Stephen The Great demanded to go home and WORK ON THE CROPS. The King accepted although Mehmed II was leading (personally) his army against Stephen... He lost the battle at Razboieni. It is said that when he retreated in the woods, some nobles remained behind as sacrifice detachment... they died while the peasants were at their home doing whatever things they had to do. After this battle, many nobles disappeared from the chronicles...
Got an exception... but be carefull cause it's weird! (and it's true)
July 26 1476... The peasants from King's Stephen The Great demanded to go home and WORK ON THE CROPS. The King accepted although Mehmed II was leading (personally) his army against Stephen... He lost the battle at Razboieni. It is said that when he retreated in the woods, some nobles remained behind as sacrifice detachment... they died while the peasants were at their home doing whatever things they had to do. After this battle, many nobles disappeared from the chronicles...
yes... he was weird! but a succesfull one! Check wikipedia...
in this case it's accurate... i know it
They weren`t quite... nobles! Not like in western Europe, at least.
the moldavian and vallachian army was very different from the western armies mostly because our kings used the peasants as one of their main "weapon".
If they had used peasants, that means they didn't have a well ordered army.
then how come so many battles were won? only stephen the great had a score of 34/36
