Patch Notes v1.2.9

[Lipbalmplease]

No that won't be the case.

Could you please link the bug report?

Do you or your colleagues not get bored not doing anything in your job? Or is it that no one else is hiring?

 

[JunKeteer]

At least now we know...

Until June, I suppose?

That'll be on page 28th of this thread for that mid-June single-sentence update that it won't be in June either.

 

[Gadheras]

Do you or your colleagues not get bored not doing anything in your job? Or is it that no one else is hiring?

Good chance many of those is now working on their new game... That is usually how it goes when a game is released.

 

[Lipbalmplease]

Good chance many of those is now working on their new game... That is usually how it goes when a game is released.

The game has been in development for 14 years and this is the state it's in, i.e. unfinished.

There's a good chance they don't do a whole lot at their job.

 

[Cquarto91]

https://steamdb.info/changelist/23188907/ Maybe patch or something more?

 

[stevepine]

@Dejan @Piconi @Duh_TaleWorlds, If you respect the community, give us at least some information about the roadmap. If it exists at all.

Dont bother, it's a waste of time... and always has been.

 

[Seeking Lógos]

@Dejan @Piconi @Duh_TaleWorlds, If you respect the community, give us at least some information about the roadmap. If it exists at all.

C'mon guys =[

 

[Slader]

@Dejan @Piconi @Duh_TaleWorlds, If you respect the community, give us at least some information about the roadmap. If it exists at all.

There is no roadmap. I'm sure they don't know what they're doing

 

[Brocephus]

I will choose to stay optimistic.

I don't think there is any reason to be optimistic at this point.

 

[bunions]

I will choose to stay optimistic.

You misspelled --> unrealistic.

The only thing that is out of the hands of Taleworlds is timely, well crafted, concrete results. They are allergic to those.

 

[qp]

a game with such great potential is wasted in the hands of TW

 

[Seeking Lógos]

a game with such great potential is wasted in the hands of TW

Maybe 1.3 will have a lot of content as I see them mess around on steamdb a lot.
1.3 could be the biggest patch yet and DLC could be around the corner.

 

[Penn]

Maybe 1.3 will have a lot of content as I see them mess around on steamdb a lot.
1.3 could be the biggest patch yet and DLC could be around the corner.

One can hope. But I doubt it considering how it has looked so far.

 

[Martino2727]

Modders are working harder than taleworlds

 

[Jehiel]

Maybe 1.3 will have a lot of content as I see them mess around on steamdb a lot.
1.3 could be the biggest patch yet and DLC could be around the corner.

This is pretty much the best case scenario but it doesn't really explain why they needed to delete the beta branch nor go completely silent.

 

[fedeita]

No that won't be the case.

Could you please link the bug report?

I can list what I think are the main problems:

- Baked GI is full of artifacts that have been reported infinite times, it seems that a solution to this problem has not yet been found.

- The game lacks of a centralized lighting system to makes everything more homogeneous, actually having the data stored inside the single scene creates oddities like heavily brighter scenes.
*even the interpolated atmosphere xmls makes no sense: why different cultures are supposed to have different lighting? just make it differ regionally in the campaign map then use cultures for different color grades.

- The engine suffers from occluding problems of the lighting coming from the main source, particulary when this one is located at a very low altitude (reported).

- While it has somehow sense, the scenes are small and having the sun project very long shadows that travel the whole scene is really bad looking, not to mention that the entity itself project its shadow from lower lods when located far from the player (reported).
*possible solutions would be to put a length limit to shadows (like kingdom come deliverance) or fade them away as the distance from the terrain grows (resource intensive?)

- Indirect light isn't calculated so there isn't any indirect shadowing, resulting in only one shade instead of multiplying and combining them.
*usually old gen games uses ambient occlusion for this, bannerlord uses it too but it's so subtle to being almost invisible.

- Again, the game can't render a decent lighting for the flora so recreating a forest is out of question.

- There's no light scattering.

- The game is too dependant to baked GI to look better, improve base lighting.

- Artificial lights do not cast shadows, how is this even possible todays? they are already ingame, bugged but you can enable them and they looks superb:


- There's no three point lighting but it's faked in the menus, isn't better to just add it to the game?

- At noon there's a sunlight multiplier blent to the sun altitude that makes the lighing looking like a nuclear blast.

- The shadows are too dependants to skybox and fog values, so having a blue sky with almost neutral colour shadows is not possible.


Possible misinterpretation:


- It seems that GI bakes only the sun arc assigned in the setting and altering it in the atmosphere.xml breaks the baked GI.





Surely I missed something, however don't take this as offense but overall the lighting looks outdated and needs some love... just watch manor lords for comparison, or the upcoming KCD2.

 

[The Bowman]

I may add to this discussion that interior lighting is incredibly performance intensive. Entering a tavern yields much lower FPS than being in the city itself.

 

[Seeking Lógos]

This is pretty much the best case scenario but it doesn't really explain why they needed to delete the beta branch nor go completely silent.

Have you looked at bannerlord player numbers on Steamdb? Theyre on the rise so it would be in the best interest of the company to release a good patch with DLC

 

[Martino2727]

I can list what I think are the main problems:

- Baked GI is full of artifacts that have been reported infinite times, it seems that a solution to this problem has not yet been found.

- The game lacks of a centralized lighting system to makes everything more homogeneous, actually having the data stored inside the single scene creates oddities like heavily brighter scenes.
*even the interpolated atmosphere xmls makes no sense: why different cultures are supposed to have different lighting? just make it differ regionally in the campaign map then use cultures for different color grades.

- The engine suffers from occluding problems of the lighting coming from the main source, particulary when this one is located at a very low altitude (reported).

- While it has somehow sense, the scenes are small and having the sun project very long shadows that travel the whole scene is really bad looking, not to mention that the entity itself project its shadow from lower lods when located far from the player (reported).
*possible solutions would be to put a length limit to shadows (like kingdom come deliverance) or fade them away as the distance from the terrain grows (resource intensive?)

- Indirect light isn't calculated so there isn't any indirect shadowing, resulting in only one shade instead of multiplying and combining them.
*usually old gen games uses ambient occlusion for this, bannerlord uses it too but it's so subtle to being almost invisible.

- Again, the game can't render a decent lighting for the flora so recreating a forest is out of question.

- There's no light scattering.

- The game is too dependant to baked GI to look better, improve base lighting.

- Artificial lights do not cast shadows, how is this even possible todays? they are already ingame, bugged but you can enable them and they looks superb:


- There's no three point lighting but it's faked in the menus, isn't better to just add it to the game?

- At noon there's a sunlight multiplier blent to the sun altitude that makes the lighing looking like a nuclear blast.

- The shadows are too dependants to skybox and fog values, so having a blue sky with almost neutral colour shadows is not possible.


Possible misinterpretation:


- It seems that GI bakes only the sun arc assigned in the setting and altering it in the atmosphere.xml breaks the baked GI.





Surely I missed something, however don't take this as offense but overall the lighting looks outdated and needs some love... just watch manor lords for comparison, or the upcoming KCD2.

10000 upvotes my guy Bannerlord could be beautiful but instead it feels cartooney. Good lighting could fix so many issues. Not to mention that night fights have ALWAYS been an issue and have never been fixed

 

[Yasin Karaaslan]

Lighting before engine 1.4 was much much better. See this.