How to invade Russia?

[The Bowman]

How to invade ?

USA can ally with China, India, Japanese + other countries, then start invade with milions of soldiers, this is only the way.

 

[FrisianDude]

... I'm glad you didn't lead allied forces in WWII.

 

[Sheriff-murder]

The nukes has to be trashed somewhere. 

 

[Adviser]

Few things i have noted while Reading the thread:

1.No AB or NW weapons, the radiation just kills whole globe.

2.No biological weapons, man made diseases are too hard to take care of , especially if there is an outbreak.

3.Roads at the Siberia are not the best possible.

4.Area of controll, time for some mathematics (yay). Lets say you need about 10 men for every 1 kilometer, and Russia is about 17,057,400 km2, (unfortunately at this point i lost all the count, but you get the idea)

5.Now when we include Russian military.

=High casualty count and possibly quite long war, so be my guest and try invade Russia. (If that's even possible.) 

 

[Sensei]

Adviser, it would take about 170,574,000 men. 170.5 million men.

 

[Adviser]

Adviser, it would take about 170,574,000 men. 170.5 million men.

Thank you for the answer, even tough it might not be enough, when we know that theres going to be resistance movement later on if Russia would lose the war.

 

[Mage246]

You wouldn't need 10 men for every kilometer, a smarter metric would be a certain number of men as a percentage of the population. You don't need to police a lot of Russia because it is largely *uninhabited* in some areas.

 

[Cyborg Eastern European]

Uninhabited areas can be populated by the inevitable La resistance, ya know.

 

[Mage246]

Sure, but it's not much of a resistance if they spend all of their time trying to scratch out a living. Doesn't leave much time for staging attacks, now does it? I already thought of that. Plus, sudden signs of habitation tend to stand out more, especially when it comes to aerial surveillance.

 

[Cyborg Eastern European]

A lot of the unpopulated area is also forests.

 

[Sensei]

There's no way anyone could ever raise such an army. The US has 1,473,900 active personnel and 1,458,500 in reserve. The active personnel is just 0.8% of 170.5 million (which is approximately needed) and together the active and reserve personnel would only reach 1.7% of the personnel needed. Which would mean that you still need 167,641,600 men from allies. NATO with it's 28 countries could pitch in maybe 8,792,720 troops.
You could get with far less troops. I mean Russia is not very habited in some parts. 8.3/km2 is Russia's current population density. You would definitely get along with much much less troops than 170 million. If you said 10 soldiers per kilometre - now that would be more people than the total population of Russia, which is obviously not necessary. Like Hyperion said, much of it is forest. There's also tundra and steppe.

 

[Cyborg Eastern European]

Say...
Take the population density and add one or two per kilometre?

 

[Mage246]

A lot of the unpopulated area is also forests.

[me=Mage246]waits for Hyperion to make a point[/me]

Use your words, little one.

 

[Sensei]

Say...
Take the population density and add one or two per kilometre?

I wouldn't measure the amount of military force with the population, I'd measure it with the Russian army, which is 395,000 + 190,000 conscripts + 35,000 airbourne forces, and the quality and amount of equipment and resources.

 

[Cyborg Eastern European]

I don't think we're all on the same page here.

Spoiler

A lot of the unpopulated area is also forests.

[me=Mage246]waits for Hyperion to make a point[/me]

Use your words, little one.

I'm under the impression that aerial surveillance is slightly harder if there's trees blocking your way.

 

[Mage246]

Infrared, obviously. Any large heat sources will stand out easily in a cold climate like Russia's. Already thought of that too.

 

[The Shadow]

Or, you just gas the areas.  They are unpopulated, anyways.

 

[Cyborg Eastern European]

Greenpeace might get pissier than usual tough.

 

[Average Joe peasant]

Tough.

 

[Adviser]

Infrared, obviously. Any large heat sources will stand out easily in a cold climate like Russia's. Already thought of that too.

One way to evade infrared is to dig a tunnel and since it would be on area that is unpopulated no one would ever know, that there would be an underground tunnel/base, except the resistance which would bring more people who would build more tunnels.