Beta Patch Notes v1.2.0-v1.2.6

[Sg15fan]

The cost of buying a workshop can be easily recouped if you exploit the system right, so I'd say the better solution would be to make them more profitable at a baseline so that you don't have to be somebody invested in the trading game to make them useful. If you can save up ~50,000, you can buy one workshop and get to shutting down the rest of them to maximize that one (to 3? Not sure what the sweet spot is) in profit. Tournaments are a great way to make fast cash in the early game and once you have the ball rolling the cost of converting other workshops becomes trivial. You could just lay flat and do nothing and make plenty of money (as long as you keep party expenses low. Probably best to limit yourself at ~300 silvers per day in party expenses).

There's also design inconsistencies like Workshops and stuff produced by them that you can pick up and sell abroad via the Warehouse not contributing to your Trade Skill XP despite it being directly intertwined with Trade as a game mode.

My guess is that the trade side of the game may have been the passion of a couple developers but not the majority so it's overlooked compared to the conventional gameplay loop of fighting battles to earn wealth and power. Ideally, becoming a monopolist should have the same effect in granting wealth as being a very successful mercenary since they're almost mutually exclusive play styles since becoming the enemy of even one faction can jeopardize your trade routes (especially NPC-led caravans you own) and any Workshops you own in a faction that declares war on the one you're fighting for would be stolen from you as well.

It used to be kinda OP in Warband to the point where I pretty much endeavored to buy as many Velvet Dyeworks as I could so that I'd be rich enough to casually start a kingdom with loads of elite troops ASAP.

Shutting down the rest? How?

 

[Yoshioki Ouchi]

Shutting down the rest? How?

One at a time, buy the other workshops of the type you want to make money from and convert them to something else (ideally something that won't bankrupt the NPC too quickly) so that you eventually become the sole producer and seller of the good you've cornered.

It's important to note that you'll have to shut down new competition over time, but it's at a fairly slow rate in my current playing and, according to an old video of Strat Gaming's, is based on how long it takes for the NPC to go bankrupt.

It requires touring the continent and noting what is where but the end result is ludicrous amounts of money not just passively earned but actively earned by selling held-onto production for you to pick up at the warehouse. Oil, which I broke into after Velvet, went from producing the typical nothing per day to ~1000 while holding 25% of its product and ~700 while holding 50% of its product once I bought out every other Olive Press and shut them down. It had costed me, I'd guesstimate, 200,000 denars but I made that money back within a single season and have become a millionaire by the end of the following year. I'm thinking of doing it again with Pottery should I keep this going and not enter politics (kinda hard to run a global monopoly as a warlord lol) in the near future.

Caravans have also worked well for me and I suspect they increase Workshop profits by driving up demand since they're participating as consumers in the economy.

 

[Selphie Nutter]

I'm actually just happy the birth/death thing will be an option on console now. This feature ruins the game for me. I like to take my time and that's not possible now. As it stands it feels like a rush to get things leveled just in time to die of old age, companions included.
Also the cheats are nice, that'll help with the incredibly boring slog that's literally a complete waste of game life in smithing. Birth/death wouldn't be so bad if chances of death were later on. Not 40+.
My last playthough 3 companions died right as I started my own kingdom. Then I died at 47. I turned it off and haven't touched it since. This new update should breathe life back into the game.

Personally im not overly impressed with this patch, it breaks the game and i hae no intention of using it. Personally i think it would have been better to increase the age range for character death so your character and companions dont die so soon after founding a kingdom.

Making it 50 or 60+ would have been a lot better. It would have allowed us to take our time, raise and raise a family. People may think its realistic for them to die at 40+ but its not, because in reality the kids would havecbeen considered mature at puberty. Since the kids in game dont mature until 18 the death range should be increased to 50 or 60+

 

[Selphie Nutter]

One at a time, buy the other workshops of the type you want to make money from and convert them to something else (ideally something that won't bankrupt the NPC too quickly) so that you eventually become the sole producer and seller of the good you've cornered.

It's important to note that you'll have to shut down new competition over time, but it's at a fairly slow rate in my current playing and, according to an old video of Strat Gaming's, is based on how long it takes for the NPC to go bankrupt.

It requires touring the continent and noting what is where but the end result is ludicrous amounts of money not just passively earned but actively earned by selling held-onto production for you to pick up at the warehouse. Oil, which I broke into after Velvet, went from producing the typical nothing per day to ~1000 while holding 25% of its product and ~700 while holding 50% of its product once I bought out every other Olive Press and shut them down. It had costed me, I'd guesstimate, 200,000 denars but I made that money back within a single season and have become a millionaire by the end of the following year. I'm thinking of doing it again with Pottery should I keep this going and not enter politics (kinda hard to run a global monopoly as a warlord lol) in the near future.

Caravans have also worked well for me and I suspect they increase Workshop profits by driving up demand since they're participating as consumers in the economy.

Capitalism at its best, this post made me laugh

 

[Yoshioki Ouchi]

Capitalism at its best, this post made me laugh

What can I say? Other than I really enjoy seeing the numbers go up and being able to casually afford Tier 6 armor and ride a high-end luxury-brand horse while touring the continent and seeing how rich I can get with as little risk to my own person as possible...

 

[Selphie Nutter]

What can I say? Other than I really enjoy seeing the numbers go up and being able to casually afford Tier 6 armor and ride a high-end luxury-brand horse while touring the continent and seeing how rich I can get with as little risk to my own person as possible...

thats funny, me, im the opposite, i like to make my money and collect my gear and horses from tournaments, Wader Hotbloods for the win. I like to travel all over competing in tournaments, especially when they offer rear horses as prizes. I win then, get all my clan members to learn breeder then i breed the rear mounts to equip and sell.

 

[Yoshioki Ouchi]

thats funny, me, im the opposite, i like to make my money and collect my gear and horses from tournaments, Wader Hotbloods for the win. I like to travel all over competing in tournaments, especially when they offer rear horses as prizes. I win then, get all my clan members to learn breeder then i breed the rear mounts to equip and sell.

Why not both? Winning Lambos and Mercedes horses is a great way to get the mercantile grindset going and is just good money and character practice on top of that.

Mercantilism is only mutually exclusive with being a mercenary or a politician (prior to having a large enough country to have a semi-okay-ish self-contained economy).

I didn't know that was a thing--thanks for telling me. Definitely something to consider since my next character will probably be less of a wannabe merchant prince and more of an old school warlord homie lol.

 

[Selphie Nutter]

Why not both? Winning Lambos and Mercedes horses is a great way to get the mercantile grindset going and is just good money and character practice on top of that.

Mercantilism is only mutually exclusive with being a mercenary or a politician (prior to having a large enough country to have a semi-okay-ish self-contained economy).

I didn't know that was a thing--thanks for telling me. Definitely something to consider since my next character will probably be less of a wannabe merchant prince and more of an old school warlord homie lol.

If you're going to try the life of a warmongering Horse lord you'll need at least 3xclan members with breeder to get them breeding regularly. 5+ for increased frequency. 5 clan members with breeder tends to give a high chance of the rare horses breeding more often. Its only 1% chance for 1 perk, but it stacks. Even though it says 1% chance they do still breed, but its usually the low level horses like the sumpter horse at first. The scout perk to tame wild horses is also good to have if you're goong to play as a horse lord

 

[Samsquanch]

So TW are you serious? A peasant with a blacksmith hammer can block a heavy attack from an executioner axe on horseback? /sigh

 

[JunKeteer]

So TW are you serious? A peasant with a blacksmith hammer can block a heavy attack from an executioner axe on horseback? /sigh

I mean, this was the case since 10+ years ago; not really a surprising misconception.

4 attack patterns, 4 block patterns (RIP spears); that's how it is, and too complex for them to do it en masse otherwise without it also being too OP to abuse or lose against.

 

[Yoshioki Ouchi]

If you're going to try the life of a warmongering Horse lord you'll need at least 3xclan members with breeder to get them breeding regularly. 5+ for increased frequency. 5 clan members with breeder tends to give a high chance of the rare horses breeding more often. Its only 1% chance for 1 perk, but it stacks. Even though it says 1% chance they do still breed, but its usually the low level horses like the sumpter horse at first. The scout perk to tame wild horses is also good to have if you're goong to play as a horse lord

Sounds like a "second generation" build, then, since it's pretty much just my original character and maybe a wife at best to lord the horses lol.

 

[Droob]

The v1.2.7 patch is now live for Xbox as well.

I can't see custom servers in the server browser on 1.2.7 on Xbox Game pass.

 

[数独天地]

Is there any problem with the updated version?

 

[MArdA TaleWorlds]

I don't know if this was reported before but parties not in an army keep going back and forth between two settlements, but not reaching neither as they change mind halfway. This started after the latest patch. I hope you guys are aware of this and fixing asap.

The save file we got and the video were unrelated. So we were not able to reproduce the issue as you described on the save file you provided. It would be great if you can send us a new video and a save file that has both got the bug?
Also could you open a new thread on the technical support board so that we can communicate through there more effectively?

 

[murtega]

The save file we got and the video were unrelated. So we were not able to reproduce the issue as you described on the save file you provided. It would be great if you can send us a new video and a save file that has both got the bug?
Also could you open a new thread on the technical support board so that we can communicate through there more effectively?

I didn't have a save file from the moment of video recorded. In save file, you can follow Caladog's party and see he's also going between two locations continously for some time.
I'll open a separate thread if I encounter the bug again on a bigger scale.