The Complete Idiot's Guide to Installing the SVN version of Anno Domini 1257

[blashn]

I have a problem when I launch 1257. It writes : failed get_object : arena_armorB.
Help me please. Don't say that I'm comlete idiot))

 

[Ritter Dummbatz]

Don't say that I'm comlete idiot

Not in this case. 

 

[scottyd2506]

Are you implying that we, who make the mod, do not have lifes outside of a computer? Becouse we not only we spend our free time on a computer developing the mod so you could play but also have to instal "100bilions"(actualy that would be around 4 or 5 to develop the mod and 1 to share it with the community - so you would only need 1 as well).

I'm implying that if you take time to read the many many posts of people who can not get this to work AFTER they read through HOURS of old posts.., you may find those people are not as lazy as you think they are.
  I have personally made mods for games and simulators, a Campaign for a tank sim that took 100's of hours. So I know how much time and testing mods can take, for a person or team  to make. And so as well I appreciate the work they put into them.

If you would follow the instructions insted of complaining about the word "lazy" in the forums, you would be downloading the SVN version already.

I'm not complaining, because I'm not downloading this bugy 3rd party program to play a mod when ALL the other 1000's of mods work fine without one! Fine without some bug ridden 3rd part program 75% of the people can't get working.. because of course you think they are lazy!
Oh I still like and play 1257ad.  I  play 0.95Pre10, it has bugs yes, but overall is the best. I'm not that excited about the SVN version, and will skip it, but I  do hope all the best for you all who are developing and working on it. I just hope you can keep your name calling tone down a tad.

I hate you.

Well, I don't hate you. We all here share a common interest and it is best to be friends than hate or call names. I hope the best for you

 

[Ritter Dummbatz]

Tortoise isn't buggy at all btw. Sometimes internet connections and google-code servers seem to have problems. That's not a problem either because you just start another update and the best is it works like a downloadmanager and simply continues the download.

bug ridden 3rd part program 75% of the people can't get working.

You seem to have statistics...well, from my experience people don't like to go new ways and in fact it might be a bit confusing on first sight but in the end there are a million happy customers.

I think you shouldn't complain. It's a developer version anyway and not for those who just want to play. Those will be served if a download option as usual is provided.

So don't worry and have a good time in the meantime. 

 

[Life_Erikson]

I have a little problem.

If I go on "SVN Update" it tells me:

Completed at revision 248
5 kBytes transferred...

If I go then on "Show log.."
It tells me:

revision: 248

author: ralf.wierzbicki@....

Date: 12:15:59 thursday, 3rd feburary 2011


To keep it short:
It tells me, that the latest update is from the 3rd feburary which is wrong isn't it?

Any ideas how to fix that?

 

[Ritter Dummbatz]

You need a new download. You currently try to download the repository from Othr but DrTomas took over and started a new one from scratch.

 

[Othienka]

Spoiler

I have a little problem.

If I go on "SVN Update" it tells me:

Completed at revision 248
5 kBytes transferred...

If I go then on "Show log.."
It tells me:

revision: 248

author: ralf.wierzbicki@....

Date: 12:15:59 thursday, 3rd feburary 2011


To keep it short:
It tells me, that the latest update is from the 3rd feburary which is wrong isn't it?

Any ideas how to fix that?

Just change your repository url to : http://dev1257.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/

 

[scottyd2506]

I think you shouldn't complain. It's a developer version anyway and not for those who just want to play. Those will be served if a download option as usual is provided.

So don't worry and have a good time in the meantime. 

  Thanks you Ritter, I will have a good time. Also I NEVER complained, I just said let us not get flamed up over people asking questions- esp  on something that is either bug ridden, or the source page where it is downloaded from is corrupt..  I am not talking about myself as I have never even tried to download tortoise, but like I said a good 75% of the people are having problems with it, bugy or bad download or maybe their system is not capable of running a 3rd party program while 1257 is running..  This is not complaining, it is just the fact. Calling people lazy or idiot is not going to help anyone. Not directing this at you personally or at all.
Have a good day 

 

[ntb_15]

  Thanks you Ritter, I will have a good time. Also I NEVER complained, I just said let us not get flamed up over people asking questions- esp  on something that is either bug ridden, or the source page where it is downloaded from is corrupt..  I am not talking about myself as I have never even tried to download tortoise, but like I said a good 75% of the people are having problems with it, bugy or bad download
Have a good day

But see, that is misinformation. Tortoise is a perfectly stable software. From those 75% (i doubt it is 75%) of the people that report problems, a majority had problems because they did not read the threads carefully and when someone has a specific problem we always try to help them, and almost all the problems reported are not with the software itself, but with the repository were the files are stored (i.e google). This system of distribution is also far superior to the Mb repository because, if the download becomes disrupted or if the mod files become corrupted for any reason, you can always continue the download or replace the corrupted files without the need to download the entire mod again. Since you have not tried the software yourself, your assessment of it is very much unfair and false.

maybe their system is not capable of running a 3rd party program while 1257 is running.

Toroise is only a software used to download the mod. Kind of like steam. However it does not need to be running while playing the mod or any other time. It is only a "download manager" when put into a simpler form.

This is not complaining, it is just the fact. Calling people lazy or idiot is not going to help anyone. Not directing this at you personally or at all.

This is not fact, it is misinformation. And now with your posts, you may also have helped with spreading this misinformation to anyone new that might have read it.

Again since you have not tried this method yourself, the below post of yours, sounds very much like comlaining, especially because you have grossly exaggerated your points (you only need one extra software).

Spoiler

  1257 is no doubt the best mod for Warband..or at least it was before "pre10 95" but to call people names or LAZY because they don't want to install a TON of 3rd party programs to make this work is a little extreme.. some of us have a life outside of a computer, and therefore do not have the time to install 100 billions different 3rd party programs to got ONE mod for a game to work, when all the other mods are simple to get going.

Having to read hours of info to get one mod in a 1000 to work seems like a waste of time.  not being lazy.
A lot of people have trouble with some of those editing or 3rd party programs, you may not, but other do sometimes.

it is nice of the guy or people who made the mod to allow others help in building up this mod.
No doubt this mod when finished will be the top favored mod of all... but will it ever be finished?

take care

Again, information on how to install this software and set it up, is clearly explained in the first post of the topic
http://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php/topic,169881.0.html

And yet people repeatadly ask questions like "How do i install tortoise", "how to download the svn version" etc without even reading that post properly (hence the term lazy), and hence ziegler88 generously took the time to make this detailed tutorial with pictures to help them.
However whenever someone, who has indeed read the original post on how to install the svn, posts a specific problem with setting this up, we always try to help them.


I am sorry if any part of the above post sounded harsh, it was written with the lightest of tone, with the friendliest of intent  .

Good day, and enjoy your time on the forums and your playthrough with mod  .

 

[Life_Erikson]

You need a new download. You currently try to download the repository from Othr but DrTomas took over and started a new one from scratch.

Spoiler

I have a little problem.

If I go on "SVN Update" it tells me:

Completed at revision 248
5 kBytes transferred...

If I go then on "Show log.."
It tells me:

revision: 248

author: ralf.wierzbicki@....

Date: 12:15:59 thursday, 3rd feburary 2011


To keep it short:
It tells me, that the latest update is from the 3rd feburary which is wrong isn't it?

Any ideas how to fix that?

Just change your repository url to : http://dev1257.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/

Thank you both.

I really needed to download it completely from the new link.

 

[Chazzer1]

you just saved a couple of hours of my life. God bless you 

 

[Nils_Dacke]

Hey guys. I just bought the game and decided to try this mod out since it looks really cool. I followed your idiotproof guide but still managed to **** up. When I download the game it stops after downloading about 1gb and says: Error REPORT of'/svn/svn/vcc/default'- could not read response body:connection was closed by server.
Now what I'm asking is, have I done anything wrong or is this a common issue? If it is, how do I fix it?
Sorry if this has been posted before but I didn't find it anywhere

Kind regards, Nils Dacke

 

[Ritter Dummbatz]

Just a few posts above you should find the answere.

In other words don't delete anything just keep updating until it's done.

 

[Nils_Dacke]

Thanks man. Never done this kind of things before. I just want to play it! xD

 

[Nils_Dacke]

Works like a charm, Thanks!

 

[scottyd2506]

But see, that is misinformation. Tortoise is a perfectly stable software. From those 75% (i doubt it is 75%) of the people that report problems, a majority had problems because they did not read the threads carefully and when someone has a specific problem we always try to help them, and almost all the problems reported are not with the software itself, but with the repository were the files are stored (i.e google). This system of distribution is also far superior to the Mb repository because, if the download becomes disrupted or if the mod files become corrupted for any reason, you can always continue the download or replace the corrupted files without the need to download the entire mod again. Since you have not tried the software yourself, your assessment of it is very much unfair and false.

This is not complaining, it is just the fact. Calling people lazy or idiot is not going to help anyone. Not directing this at you personally or at all.

This is not fact, it is misinformation. And now with your posts, you may also have helped with spreading this misinformation to anyone new that might have read it.



yours, sounds very much like comlaining, especially because you have grossly exaggerated your points (you only need one extra software).

Again, information on how to install this software and set it up, is clearly explained in the first post of the topic
http://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php/topic,169881.0.html

And yet people repeatadly ask questions like "How do i install tortoise", "how to download the svn version" etc without even reading that post properly (hence the term lazy), and hence ziegler88 generously took the time to make this detailed tutorial with pictures to help them.
However whenever someone, who has indeed read the original post on how to install the svn, posts a specific problem with setting this up, we always try to help them.


I am sorry if any part of the above post sounded harsh, it was written with the lightest of tone, with the friendliest of intent  .

Good day, and enjoy your time on the forums and your playthrough with mod  .

  I believe we are on the same page, and might agree on the 95% of things with M&B but seems the 5% we strongly and respectively agree to disagree.

  Running a 3rd party program to run a rouge mod is not more stable than a the normal mod modules.everyone uses  this is not "misinformation", it is plain fact.

  It is not misinformation to say we should tone the flames down some because people ask questions, because they do not want to read hours through the threads to find a solutions.. you might know it, and know where to read, as you have been there.
 
I personally read about it for a few hours on how to do it long before the  "Idiots guide" post was put up (it is a good guide), and figured it out. I just declined to used 3rd party programs on my system sometimes as often they can cause problems on down the road on the system.

sometimes you need to forgive people, when they are used to something in one game like M&B module system, and they may have 100's of other games they play.. they may not want to take time to search the forms for hours to find info for one mod for one game like we would.
 
I know this may sound harsh but-
When someone puts a mod out that uses an unusual method to install and run it, and people ask questions, don't cry, whine and throw a baby fit about it, when you think they are asking too many questions.. Either live with it or don't work on it..  I know cause I have made mods myself for the public.
  This is not misinformation, it is being considerate to your peers, who by the way enjoy the same thing as you, let us not drive them away by insults.

I still wish you the best, and have a good day.

 

[DrTomas]

I believe we are on the same page, and might agree on the 95% of things with M&B but seems the 5% we strongly and respectively agree to disagree.

  Running a 3rd party program to run a rouge mod is not more stable than a the normal mod modules.everyone uses  this is not "misinformation", it is plain fact.

  It is not misinformation to say we should tone the flames down some because people ask questions, because they do not want to read hours through the threads to find a solutions.. you might know it, and know where to read, as you have been there.

I personally read about it for a few hours on how to do it long before the  "Idiots guide" post was put up (it is a good guide), and figured it out. I just declined to used 3rd party programs on my system sometimes as often they can cause problems on down the road on the system.

sometimes you need to forgive people, when they are used to something in one game like M&B module system, and they may have 100's of other games they play.. they may not want to take time to search the forms for hours to find info for one mod for one game like we would.

I know this may sound harsh but-
When someone puts a mod out that uses an unusual method to install and run it, and people ask questions, don't cry, whine and throw a baby fit about it, when you think they are asking too many questions.. Either live with it or don't work on it..  I know cause I have made mods myself for the public.
  This is not misinformation, it is being considerate to your peers, who by the way enjoy the same thing as you, let us not drive them away by insults.

I still wish you the best, and have a good day.

Actually you seem to misunderstand what Subversion is for. Subversion is a development version of the mod, that normally would only be available to the development team. We just made it publicly available. So anyone who is interested in the mod could either help us out by bug-hunting, or even contributing. Those who can't wait for the mod can grab it and play it as it is. The official releases won't be distributed though the Tortoise system, but will be uploaded to http://www.mbrepository.com/ .

Secondly, no one really complained or whined about people who asked questions. Most here usually(especially Ritter Dummbatz) helped people with all the answers. Actually, after this guide been posted, the amount of questions about how to get the svn version of the mod seem to decrease. And no offence, but the one that is complaining is you.

Thirdly, I'm sorry if you feel offended by the "idiot" guide or the word "lazy" that was used in the guide. However, you should take not that this is a humoristic approach and not meant to be insulting. But just because you feel that way, this guide will not be taken down.

  Running a 3rd party program to run a rouge mod is not more stable than a the normal mod modules.everyone uses  this is not "misinformation", it is plain fact.

No, this is misinformation. No 3rd party program is needed to run the module. You only need Tortoise to download the mod. That's two diffrent things. You could even download the files by hand if you wish it. But you will need to download each individual file and there are more then 3000 of them. If you have something specifically against tortoise you can also use any other Subversion clients to download the mod: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_Subversion_clients .

Anyway, I don't see the purpose of this discussion. Continuation of it after this post will be considered as offtopic.

Have a nice night.

 

[Arrakhis]

if anyone had a problem due inetrnet timeout in SVN which may cause file corrupt, feel free to ask me to provide torrent assistance

 

[TemplarLord]

if anyone had a problem due Internet timeout in SVN which may cause file corrupt, feel free to ask me to provide torrent assistance

That would be great, for me it's been downloading 10 minutes and only 40MB actually got downloaded. For some reason it's super slow, when it's downloading it reaches my download cap, but then it stops for 10-20 seconds and only then starts downloading another file.

EDIT: Just stopped the current download, and started the client anew, downloading at an almost constant 500 kB/s. 

 

[Siusiak]

my download stop every 2 seconds, wait 30 s and download for 2 s again.

EDIT: i think god is reading this forum because download went little faster