MP Sci-Fi SW: Bear Force II - 1.0 Released!

[Marko͘]

Blog 5 is here! http://www.moddb.com/mods/star-wars-bear-force-ii/news/bear-force-ii-development-blog-5-phase-ii-clonesvideo-new-soundtrack
Phase II Clones.


For all that missed it, here's Blog 4 too - Jedi Temple.
http://www.moddb.com/mods/star-wars-bear-force-ii/news/bear-force-ii-development-blog-4-coruscant-jedi-temple-preview-new-soundtrack

 

[Vraelomon]

Nice! They look like they would be fun to kill, and the maps look great too. 

 

[Marko͘]

Thanks!
Here's the blueprint of it:

Spoiler

 

[NightHawkreal]

Too big.

 

[KickingJoub]

Too big.

Too small, size does matter after all?

OT: Maybe the number of people that are supposed to be on it. I'd propose a small-medium-big-huge scale for scenes to make life easier for hosts. Yes, I'm way too late with the suggestion, but what can I do? Exactly.

 

[NightHawkreal]

Size matters. On large maps players longer run than fight.  And it does not add the popularity to simple infantry.

 

[KickingJoub]

Agreed. On another note, did someone get the reference? Sure the sizes are in the wrong order, but someone has to have gotten it.

 

[Vraelomon]

Is there anyway to add hit stuns on melee combat whilst leaving it off for ranged combat to avoid stunlocks? I say this because anyone with a lightsaber can just swing wildly against anyone with a vibroblade, since the blade wont interrupt the lightsaber attack.

 

[Marko͘]

I'm trying to do that right now.

The problem is, all types of damage share the same threshold for stunning. Previously it was 1, meaning everything above 1 damage will stun you. For 0.4 I set it to something way above the possible limits, so there was no stun. In order to fix the melee, it's possible to bring the stun back but all the melee weapons(including the knives, swords etc.) will deal 40+ damage and therefore be able to kill you with 1-2 hits.
The reason for that lies in the fact that the most damage a blaster can do is around ~43, only snipers and the Geonosian sonic blaster are in that category, so I set the threshold to just above 42 to stun you.

What I am unsure about though is, if you land bad hits with your melee weapon, you may deal less damage(due to speed, armour calculations) and not actually stun the guy...if anyone knows more about this please let me know

 

[NightHawkreal]

Is there anyway to add hit stuns on melee combat whilst leaving it off for ranged combat to avoid stunlocks? I say this because anyone with a lightsaber can just swing wildly against anyone with a vibroblade, since the blade wont interrupt the lightsaber attack.

Maybe, at the same time you remove the blasters from the game?

 

[Marko͘]

I'm trying to do that right now.

The problem is, all types of damage share the same threshold for stunning. Previously it was 1, meaning everything above 1 damage will stun you. For 0.4 I set it to something way above the possible limits, so there was no stun. In order to fix the melee, it's possible to bring the stun back but all the melee weapons(including the knives, swords etc.) will deal 40+ damage and therefore be able to kill you with 1-2 hits.
The reason for that lies in the fact that the most damage a blaster can do is around ~43, only snipers and the Geonosian sonic blaster are in that category, so I set the threshold to just above 42 to stun you.

What I am unsure about though is, if you land bad hits with your melee weapon, you may deal less damage(due to speed, armour calculations) and not actually stun the guy...if anyone knows more about this please let me know

 

[NightHawkreal]

Is there anyway to add hit stuns on melee combat whilst leaving it off for ranged combat to avoid stunlocks? I say this because anyone with a lightsaber can just swing wildly against anyone with a vibroblade, since the blade wont interrupt the lightsaber attack.

I'm trying to do that right now.

So far I've only heard about the melee.

 

[Marko͘]

And? Very few  people want ranged stun back, in comparison to the lots of people who enjoy the new shooting. Ranged stun, and with it low firerates are not coming back.

 

[NightHawkreal]

Obviously that's why no one wants to use the shooters.

 

[Marko͘]

Or, the fact that they can't fight Jedi effectively anymore.
On my fixing list(as you can see).

 

[NightHawkreal]

It's connected. The counter at the distance, no stun near. And the cherry on the cake - a single blow with a sword.

 

[Lumos]

I think you could fake it by removing the built-in stunning entirely, then forcing an agent to get stunned if hit by an appropriate melee weapon. Not pretty, but would do the job.

 

[NightHawkreal]

With the same success it is possible to make a stun for specific blaster.

As for me a knife inefficiency is justified, lightsaber shall cut it in half.

 

[Dansk viking]

I'd say you could increase all melee damage (which I've been proponent of anyway), but it would require some adjustments to make the lightsaber superior to the others. Lightsabers should, perhaps be ~100 damage in order to ensure death on any blow. The shorter blades should lose the blocking ability (again) and/or be made slightly slower.  One could consider making the lightsaber crush through other blocks at times, but I'm not sure how that would turn out; the most important change would be the 100% kill-rate of the lightsaber (there's nothing worse than glancing off with a lightsaber...)

 

[Marko͘]

Hello gentlemen, I have some dire news.
Our forum is now down due to multiple stuff piling up, the domain has just expired and we have to renew it besides the hosting services. Also, you might have noticed that the official server has been down for 3 months now, great thanks to Danskr Vikingr for jumping in and hosting his New Sith Wars to act as a public server all this time.
If there's anyone here that has the means and wants to help us, please PM me for the details. The forum is really an essential community and development tool and we'd love to bring back the official server for the new update coming out.